The world of mobile gaming is ever-evolving, and with those changes comes a demand for new devices that are able to handle the updates that are rolling out. Apple more-or-less created the demand for smartphones when it introduced the first iPhone in 2007, and Amazon decided to up the ante in function and design with the release of the Fire Phone last July. But how well can this device stand up to one of the longest running contenders of the smartphone universe?
Screen Size, Weight, and Resolution
We’ll start off with the underdog. The Amazon Fire Phone has a 4.7-inch display with a resolution of 720 x 1280 pixels or 315 pixels per inch. The iPhone 6 shares its screen size with the Fire Phone, however, its resolution is set in at 750 x 1334 or 326 pixels per inch, giving it a slightly crisper image. Finally the iPhone 6 Plus comes in with a whopping 5.5-inch screen situated just a resolution of 1080 x 1920, or 401 pixels per inch.
Another factor to take into account when looking for the perfect mobile gaming hotspot, is the actual weight of the device. The fire phone weighs in at 5.64 ounces (or about 160 grams). The iPhone 6 is about 4.55 ounces (129 grams), and the 6 Plus weighs the most at 6.07 ounces (or 172 grams). It's sometimes easy to forget that weight matters, but the last thing you want is to be knee-deep in slaughtering enemies and end up with your arms ready to fall off.
The Winner: iPhone 6 Plus -The iPhone 6 and Fire Phone fall short of the massive screen size and powerful 1080P resolution offered by the iPhone 6 Plus. 720P, and slightly higher just isn’t enough when you’re looking for the crispest mobile gaming experience out there, but there is a drawback, as the iPhone 6 Plus does weigh in at a hefty 6.07 ounces. This means you'll have the best gaming graphics, but you might need to take more frequent breaks to keep your arms from tiring out.
Internals: Processor, Ram and GPU
It’s no secret that the internals of a phone can make or break it when it comes to multitasking and gaming performance. So what do each of these devices hold? And which one is going to provide the smoothest experience?
Sadly, the Amazon Fire Phone sports last year’s tech, boasting a 2.2GHz Quad Core Snapdragon 800 CPU, with an Adreno 330 GPU, and 2GB of Ram. While it isn’t a huge step behind the new tech coming out, it is worth mentioning that Qualcomm already features faster and better processors in flagship smartphones, like the Samsung Galaxy Note 4. This isn’t a deal-breaker, but compared to the new A8 processing unit dropping in the iPhone 6 and 6 Plus, it could very well be the final strike down. We don’t have any solid stats on the A8 yet, but we do know it is said to be 25 percent faster, and 50 percent more efficient than the previous A7 released in Apple devices last year. For the purpose of this argument it should be noted that the A7 was a dual core processor, running at 1.29GHz. It has also been stated that the A8 is also a dual core CPU.
The Winner: Fire Phone - It’s really hard to decide without getting hands on, but if we had to choose just from stats, the clear winner here is the Amazon Fire Phone. Not only is the processor faster (despite being last year’s tech), it also features a dedicated graphics system, meaning that less strain will be pressed onto the CPU. But don’t completely rule out the iPhone just yet, we’ll be sure to keep you update once we have proper stats and benchmarking.
Applications
Of course without proper applications to make use of all the goodness packed into a smartphone... well what would be the point?
The Amazon Fire Phone comes loaded with a suite of built in tools, like email and other Android apps. But what does it have to offer when it comes to gaming? Other than having their own app store which features free apps of the day, Amazon has also gone out of its way to hire a development team to build games and applications from the ground up, specialized just for the Fire Phone. Apple took a different route, instead deferring their application and game making needs to a long list of third party developers, including large publishers such as EA. Sadly there isn't a laundry list of titles that actually support Dynamic Perspective, but we know for sure that Saber's Edge and Lili and Snow Spin are two of those titles.
The Winner: TIE - Even with the differences in application and game development, iPhones still feature a much larger application gallery than is currently available on the Fire Phone, making this choice a bit tougher than the others we’ve made so far. If you’re looking to get your hands on quality built applications, then we suggest checking out the Fire Phone. Amazon has always been pretty good with their services, and the fact that they have a dedicated team who specializes in their device will make a difference in the applications and games we see dropping for the Fire Phone as it develops. But if you need applications and games now, we suggest picking up one of the new iPhones as the market has a ton more to offer going into the holiday season.
Price Points and Carrier Options
It’s a well-known fact that iPhones aren't exactly cheap. Apple is proud of its device lineup, and Cupertino is famous for its high quality but pricey hardware. But is the Fire Phone similarly worth the asking price?
The Fire Phone starts at just $0.99 right now (normally priced at $199), with a two year contract. The price is incredible, even if you're not necessarily going to use it primarily for gaming, but there is one catch. The Fire Phone can only be used on AT&T cellular service plans, which means you aren’t going to want to pick it up if AT&T doesn’t offer good coverage in your area.
The iPhone isn’t quite so limited, offering availability on every major carrier out there, from AT&T to Verizon. If you’re looking to pick up one of these bad boys though, you should expect to pay a pretty penny for it. With a 2 year contract the iPhone 6 starts out at just $199 for the 16GB version, spiraling upwards to $299 for a 64GB variation, and ending with $399 for the 128GB edition. The iPhone 6 Plus sports the same options for memory, at just $100 more for each option, making it $299, $399, and $499 respectively.
The Winner: TIE – If you’re looking for cheap then the best way to go is the Amazon Fire Phone, but be sure to check whether your area is covered by AT&T service as you will be limited to their network. If money isn’t a big issue, and you need to grab service with another major carrier, then we suggest picking up one of the new iPhones once they release.
*Prices are pulled straight from the Amazon and Apple Websites to provide the clearest information possible.
But what about the gimmicks?
The iPhone 6 Plus has a nice, large display, but that doesn't mean that the Fire Phone doesn't have tricks of its own. We have to mention this one big feature that may sway you toward one phone or the other. Do you like 3D stuff? If you said yes, then it might be worth looking into the Amazon Fire Phone, as it features 4 low-power cameras built into the front, which track where you are looking at the phone from. Icons, games and applications shift accordingly, in a defining feature dubbed “Dynamic Perspective.” This isn’t something that will be for everyone, and it’s too early into the phone’s life cycle to tell if it’s more of a hindrance or a help, but there's is a ton of potential for a phone that works almost like a hologram emitter.
Overall there are a lot of ties and tie breakers between these three devices. If we had to choose any single device though, we'd have to go with the iPhone 6 Plus as our mobile gaming go to. With a larger screen, a higher resolution, and the option of multiple different carriers, we just can't settle for anything less. It may be heavier, and the processor may not look as fast as the Fire Phone on paper, but those things are trivial when it comes to the quality and control we'll have on the iPhone 6 Plus.
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Josh Hawkins posted a new article, Apple's iPhone 6 takes on the Amazon Fire Phone.
Apple’s brand new iPhone is larger, beefier, and looks to be a stronger contender in the market than ever before. But just how well does it stand against Amazon’s underdog, the Fire Phone?-
The Amazon phone is slower than the iPhone 5s, how does it win the "internals" section? The iPhone 6 should be 1.25x faster for CPU limited apps and 1.5x faster for GPU limited apps.
"Not only is the processor faster (despite being last year’s tech), it also features a dedicated graphics system, meaning that less strain will be pressed onto the CPU. "
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What the christ is going on with this site lately and these articles?
The iPhone 6 smokes the Amazon Fire phone
http://www.macrumors.com/2014/09/09/iphone-6-geekbench-1-4-ghz-dual-core-a8-1gb-ram/
http://browser.primatelabs.com/geekbench3/763447
The internals thing is also insane and also the Apps being Tie.
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This article is pretty close to meaningless. Why was it even written? Why even compare the iPhone to the Fire Phone when everyone agrees that the Fire Phone is a failure and carriers are unloading it for free with contracts?
How can you review "size" and "weight" as being important for comfort without ever holding any of them in your hand, which is basically the defining characteristic of whether or not it's comfortable? Then you go on to compare processors by the gigahertz speed and the number of cores, as if that is a meaningful comparison when comparing chips from different vendors? And you completely miss the fact that Apple has integrated PowerVR GPU technology directly on chip with their processor? What about the fact that Apple iOS 8 will feature a faster graphics API called Metal which developers claim is better for performance than OpenGL?
And then you have a section named Gimmicks that talks about the Fire Phone's parallax support and mentions literally nothing else about either phone, like, oh, the brand new Apple Pay / Touch ID system *that is one of the defining characteristics of the iPhone 6*.
Also, I lost track of the typos and misspellings after I saw the weights listed as "oucnes", "oucnes", and "ounches". Come on, Shack, try harder :\ -
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Oh yes, I'm drunk enough to post tonight, TLDR: who gives a shit? Why are you whining? Who fucking cares? You've got a fucking lightning bolt on your name for fucks sake - who GIVES A FUCK what's on the front page? If they get hits, make money and keep the chatty going who cares? Jesus fuck.
Fuck that, post about phones, dicks, CPU's, 4x4 tires, maddogs mom, who gives a fuck? Frontpagers.
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i think the iphone 6 coverage over the last couple of days has been pretty relevant considering the amount of threads the past few days and the amount of replies. i don't think they can compete with the big tech sites for coverage but mentioning a summary of everything for people that don't want to read huge posts is a good idea.
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I can maybe hear the argument that this is relevant because it is definitely a device that can be used for games.
But when I see comma errors like "The iPhone 6 Plus has a nice, large display, but that doesn't mean that the Fire Phone doesn't have tricks of its own." and misspellings like "toard", it makes me think you may not be worth reading.
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"The iPhone 6 and Fire Phone fall short of the massive screen size and powerful 1080P resolution offered by the iPhone 6 Plus. 720P, and slightly higher just isn’t enough when you’re looking for the crispest mobile gaming experience out there..."
What? WHAT? How is a resolution powerful, since when is "crisp" a benchmark and since when do games run better when they have to push more pixels than less?
"...the clear winner here is the Amazon Fire Phone. Not only is the processor faster (despite being last year’s tech), it also features a dedicated graphics system, meaning that less strain will be pressed onto the CPU."
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Everyone, respectfully, we get it. We're trying to fix things, but it isn't that easy, as you can see. Good Intentions Paving Company, I know, but this is something we're talking about daily now, and I know the editorial planning will get better. I actually think there's some very good content going up on Shack, but there have been some missed targets and some downright bombs (sorry about yesterday).
Give us the rest of the month. I think you guys will be pleasantly surprised and, if you like us, we'll need you to start beating the drum with us.
But we know that we have to earn it first.-
articles like this get posted and you expect us to wave your flag? sorry, but this is a gaming web site. not a site to post satire or opinions on what to spend $350 on other than a watch. that's the only reason I even joined the chatty community. articles like these have completely driven me away from respecting you as a gaming web site and thinking of you more as click-bait-whores. you'll post anything for attention. and it's a damn shame. between these kinds of articles and what's going on in chatty/mod-land, you're making it really hard to have any sort of support for this site. I'm just glad you don't have any effect on the excellent latest chatty apps everyone's made, chattypics.com or even ThomW's LOL page, which really are the only connections we have to the way things used to be around here and what got this community started in the first place.
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"articles like this get posted and you expect us to wave your flag"
Sincerely, you have to re-read my comment. "But we know that we have to earn it first." If we lost you, that's bad on us, and to the rest of you guys willing to continue to give us a chance, we hope to do better, and soon. That's all.
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I think we all appreciate that the shack finally has some owners who actually seem to care about it, but these kinds of articles do worry me. The fact that this topic was even given a green light seems absurd, and to make matters worse you can tell the only research done was some table that compared the specs of the two phones side by side.
Why not try an in depth article comparing the android gaming landscape with the iOS gaming landscape. There actually might be something worth saying in that. -
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Right, definitely not trying to ignore. Hopefully we'll show that with some better action in the very near future. We're talking about this stuff in the fourteenth hour of some of our work days (I'm only a goddamn level 4 in Destiny, the sacrifice!) -- I'm being corny, but it is something that we take seriously.
Look, we're trying our best but it's not good enough, and you guys are calling us out on it. It's been too long though, and it needs to change. It will -- thanks for sticking with us if you choose to give us another chance, and sincere apologies if we already lost you.
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Honestly, I wouldn't mind it either if that's the direction they want to go. But the content is going to have to become much, much better. If they drop to the levels of Verge with clickbait and pushing shit out as fast as possible to beat everyone to the punch. They'll get lost with the rest of the sites that are racing to the bottom.
Give me GOOD, THOROUGH content and fuck yeah. I'll pimp this site everywhere.-
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Tech expertise should include the knowledge that more Ghz and more cores doesn't necessarily mean faster.
http://images.anandtech.com/graphs/graph7903/62540.png
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http://images.anandtech.com/graphs/graph7903/62565.png
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Note that the other devices in these benchmarks are using faster Qualcomm SoCs. Making a conclusion on performance based on no testing or referencing other tests is a bad thing. -
Sounds great to me! I think diversity around all things gaming would be great for the shack!
But for all the technical content and hardware reviews I have to trust the source. It's much more objective than something like a game review which can be colored by subjective preference. This means getting your shit square, and this was not a great first impression. Plus in every article I expect writing that isn't littered with typos and basic grammar mistakes.
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I'm glad you guys are trying new things. Unfortunately we all liked the shack kitchen videos but they weren't popular enough to continue, and we all seem to hate these articles. On the other hand, I'm not too certain about the Shack's future, and if crappy articles like this are what it takes to keep the site (and chatty) alive, then keep it up I suppose.
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I think you're making a false assumption that the people commenting with their opinion have never read the front page before. Ever since stories got posted directly to the Chatty, we all see the stories going up.
Personally I think its a shit article and there have been many shit articles going up. You can have your opinion and other people can have theirs. Its how it works.-
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Even with the articles being posted in the chatty a lot of the time there's already a healthy thread already established about that topic in the chatty. People gravitate toward the thread that's getting bumped with conversation, not the one that's empty and reiterating the same thing.
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I post a shitload more in front page threads than I ever have since they've become integrated with the chatty. That also means I read a lot more of the articles.
I also think a lot of regular chatty posters don't post in the front page article comments because they attract a different crowd. That doesn't mean the articles don't get read.
I'm not saying I read them all, because I don't, but I think you're making assumptions based on some old as fuck thoughts about the front page and/or joke posts along the lines of "Front page? What's that?" -
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Yep, agreed.
It's not a great article, but we should be providing constructive criticism rather than just throwing out "Lol, wtf, embarrasing/stupid/etc". We are all guilty of ignoring the front page, so the least we can do is try to help out and not be a turd when they're trying to turn things around. -
The issue I have is that the article just isn't good. It feels rushed and they're comparing the iPhone 6 to the Amazon Fire Phone. A flagship phone vs a mid-tier phone. And the writer hasn't even used the Fire Phone. Compare flagships to flagships.
If Shacknews wants to throw in articles about new tech and not be a dedicated gaming site, that's fantastic. But the writers need to get their hands on review devices, use them as their main device each for a solid week, then write the article.
There's already quite a few tech sites that get down and dirty with the items they're reviewing. This particular feels more like an opinion piece.
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I think the poor article invited the huge backlash. This thing reads like one of those assignments you would be given in 6th grade to write 2 pages about a topic. There is no redeeming quality to it. The premise is terrible, the research is terrible, the writing is terrible. I don't claim to be even close to a professional writer and I would never consider releases an article like this.
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Some of these responses are silly, please keep up the opinion pieces so much more interesting even when don't agree with your opinions.
And people by all means disagree with the opinion but don't shoot down the content and try to respect someone has probably put a good few hours work into something like that. -
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I like the fact that you guys are trying new things, and hell, the Fire thingy is new and I don't think the premise of the article is as stupid as some seem to, but... you have to have your writers know what they are writing about. Going for interesting subjects that attract readers is understandable, but you simply shouldn't do it if you don't have a writer who has the necessary expertise and insight.
With all due respect, if I was new to the site and that was the first thing I read, I would never, ever even consider coming back. -
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