Diablo 3 lead designer: PvP not 'awesome' enough yet
Diablo 3's PvP mode still looks to be a long way from release and the game's lead designer addresses the reasons behind the delay.
Though Blizzard has released Diablo 3 on consoles and is inching closer to completing the Reaper of Souls expansion, the long-delayed PvP mode still appears to be a long way off. Nearly a year after Blizzard declared that the game mode was not meeting expectations, lead designer Kevin Martens has offered an update of sorts as to why PvP has yet to see the light of day.
"The reason why it's difficult to do PvP, is that we made a vast PvE game," Martens tells AusGamers. "The core fantasy for us was 'I want to kill lots of monsters in lots of awesome ways.' You can't kill lots of players in those awesome ways, or lots of players will get ticked off because they have the exact same fantasy as you, and they want to kill you in vast ways, so essentially, the game is automatically changing."
Martens adds that each character varies in terms of power and gear and that the Diablo team hasn't had the experience of balancing players against other players. Because overpowered characters often lead to quick deaths, the team determined that the PvP mode as it was structured was simply not fun.
Martens also rules out the idea of selecting pre-made characters. "People say 'well, why not make pre-made characters? Give me two different Barbs I can chose from, and that's my PvP Barb,' but that's not your PvP Barb, that's some random one. If your gear doesn't matter, and this game is about killing monsters and getting loot, what we're actually making is a different game."
That's not to say that Blizzard has given up on the idea of PvP entirely. Martens says that the team is still working on a PvP mode that utilizes player-built heroes.
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Diablo 3's PvP mode still looks to be a long way from release and the game's lead designer addresses the reasons behind the delay.-
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For all it's pluses, and good design, Path of Exile is not Diablo.
It's a good game, but its...different... to Diablo 3.
And if you thought the loot reward/risk factor was bad in Diablo 3...just wait until you play PoE.
At least it doesn't have an appallingly story mode you can't bypass.-
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I wanted to like it, seriously. But it was just so bland in presentation, story, and polish. But it does have some interesting and deep skill building.
The best game I've experienced in this genre is either D3 from a presentation/polish perspective and Torchlight 2 for value and fun.
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Both of those games are shallow as hell though.
I guess it depends what you're looking for in an arpg. The fun can only last so long -- it's not exactly exciting in Diablo 2 to kill Bishibosh for the 10 millionth time. If the skill system and gear don't hold my interest, it's a weak game.
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They really do need to hurry up with the next campaign.
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http://www.svenswrapper.de/english/
Play at your native resolution with all of the GLIDE bells and whistles. Looks like http://www.twitch.tv/sapienstv/b/474375971
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Still sounds like they are trying to balance PVP. It's impossible and a waste of resources. Just get the ladder in and let players police PVP.
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Did you actually read the Ausgamers article? This entire Shacknews article and headline are shitty, misleading clickbait. The actual response to the question makes it seem like they are probably never going to put PvP into Diablo 3, to the point where he said they'd be better off making an entirely new game than trying to put it into D3.
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There's no real reason for it to be as the itemization changes will affect all players, even those without the expansion. I'm fine if they are taking the time to get it right, but to me it seems more like they're holding it back so they get more widespread promotion and more people to come back and play and pay for the expansion. Rather than just a bunch returning logins to checkout the changes, be unimpressed, and quit D3 again for good. Meh.
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It's also linked to killing the AH, which doesn't happen until next year.
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Console never had the AH. I don't know why the time frame of closing the AH on PC is so long, guess it's about giving players fair warning in advance as it is a pretty big change.
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If Blizzard wanted to be cool, and give people something to do while they waited for the expansion, they would kill the AH and release a loot update sooner, rather than later; even if they the loot update was tweaked again with the expansion. Of course, that doesn't sell console versions of Diablo 3.
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I can't see why anyone would be all that desirous for PvP. I suppose uber-competitve types, perhaps. What would the benefit of winning in PvP even be?
I think this is something that they can safely put on the back-burner or never even release - granted that's just from my own perspective, of course. But I imagine I'm not alone in that thought, either.-
Becoming really powerful in D3 (and most loot-driven action RPGs, for that matter) often means breaking the system. Circumventing long cooldowns, generating near-infinite resources, piecing together armor sets with feedback-loop bonuses -- that's what being Uber means in a game of this type.
It really doesn't seem like it would mesh well with a PVP environment at all.-
Well, Blizzard is trying their best to stop all of that in the expansion as well.
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I just chalk it up to another thing Blizzard just doesn't understand when it comes to the Diablo series. At the end of the day they tried to apply WoW to Diablo and while what was released was an extremely fun game, Diablo it was not.
For the most part it appears they are realizing the error of their ways with the monster power patch, and eventual removal of the AH and the upcoming loot patch.
As for PVP, it's pretty simple. Put the damn ladders in the game. Balance is not necessary. The players will sort it out. Balance ≠ Fun.
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I really enjoyed D3, but cant imagine wanting to PvP
seems like PvP would be an uber minority-
I guess if they do pvp right it could bring new players in
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