DayZ developer 'very angry' about The War Z

DayZ creator Dean Hall doesn't want to be a professional. He wants to be a person that is upfront about his feelings and opinions. And for that he's making it clear that he is furious with the competing zombie game The War Z.

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DayZ creator Dean Hall doesn't want to be a professional. He wants to be a person that is upfront about his feelings and opinions. And for that reason, he's making it clear that he is furious with the competing zombie game The War Z.

"I am angry about the WarZ. I'm very angry," he said in an AMA on Reddit (via CVG). "I'm quite hurt personally because anyone can see how similar the words are, and while the average gamer knows the difference individual people don't."

Hall said people have called him unethical because they have confused the problems faced by The War Z with his mod. "I really don't think anyone can understand just quite how exasperated that can make you feel when you've gambled everything on something, put your whole self and reputation on the line. So it hasn't made my life very pleasant."

The War Z developer Sergey Titov has publicly apologized for problems the game has had and for the 'arrogant' way he responded to the issues.

When told that as a good professional developer, he shouldn't talk bad about another developer, Hall made it clear that he wasn't concerned. "We fundamentally disagree on what a 'good developer' is. I think a good developer should be a person not a professional. Because games are personal. I care more about being a good person and if that conflicts with some abstract sense of professionalism then to hell with professionalism. I made DayZ for the game I want to play, not because I wanted a career in it."

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    January 17, 2013 2:30 PM

    John Keefer posted a new article, DayZ developer 'very angry' about The War Z.

    DayZ creator Dean Hall doesn't want to be a professional. He wants to be a person that is upfront about his feelings and opinions. And for that he's making it clear that he is furious with the competing zombie game The War Z.

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      January 17, 2013 2:43 PM

      He sort of comes off as a little crying baby in this.

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        January 17, 2013 2:54 PM

        He's right though. I had some friends that bought WarZ because they thought it was the DayZ game I had been talking about. They saw how much it sucked, how you had to basically PAY REAL MONEY to fucking RESPAWN, and then they suddenly hated DayZ. Even when I explained the difference, they were still sour about the whole experience.

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          January 17, 2013 3:49 PM

          Well, your friends are fucking idiots then???? Why would you let them do that especially if you let them purchase WarZ KNOWING they wanted DayZ....

          That has nothing to do with Rocket being such a baby about it.

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            January 17, 2013 4:08 PM

            Because I had no idea they bought it and I was pissed when I found out they did. I didn't "warn" them about WarZ because I had no idea when it was coming out, didn't know the dev would pull the sneak attack like he did. Rocket is crying about people like my dumb friends who aren't into video games enough to know the difference, at least that's how it seems to me. Seems like a fairly valid concern, even though it's an old, old issue (not just DayZ related, the whole Zynga thing, etc etc).

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            January 23, 2013 6:18 PM

            You are dense. The concept and naming intrusion factually is costing a legit developer their reputation and earnings. That's what matters. No one gives a fuck if people know better or not, the fact is how it's affecting someone who it shouldn't be affecting. You make no point in saying that people should know better.

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          January 17, 2013 4:13 PM

          I kinda sounds like your friends aren't too bright.

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          January 17, 2013 11:18 PM

          I'm surprised they didn't buy bananas instead.

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          January 18, 2013 7:42 AM

          Wow dude, your friends sound like THE AVERAGE CONSUMER.

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          January 18, 2013 7:53 AM

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            January 18, 2013 8:47 AM

            Either they refuse to see that angle, or are of the FUCK NOTCH ROCKET mentality. Either way, whatevs.

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        January 17, 2013 4:16 PM

        You realize he's having to defend himself against criticism of THE WAR Z, right? People are like FUCK YOU FOR MAKING THE WAR Z.

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        January 17, 2013 5:00 PM

        Damned if you do, damned if you don't. He's been quiet and reserved about it this whole time until now. Anyone who says they wouldn't be a little shitty if they were in the same situation is simply lieing.

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        January 17, 2013 5:55 PM

        I'm sure you would be thrilled if a poster on Stormfront named Pancake Hummer broke national news.

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        January 17, 2013 10:33 PM

        Yeah, not really. Loved his take it was so refreshing, actually. Good for him.

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      January 17, 2013 2:56 PM

      This shit again? Jesus, get over it, that's how the world works. Instead of crying, finish your version and people will forget about the other one. Fucking baby.

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        January 17, 2013 3:00 PM

        sure, and all the small devs who got trounced on by Zynga should just 'suck it up' too, because that's how it works right?

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          January 17, 2013 3:02 PM

          That's exactly how it works. If he feels like he has a case, he should sue. Otherwise he should finish wading through his own menstrual blood and get his superior version out to clear his name.

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          January 17, 2013 3:04 PM

          Well that is how it works isn't it? The only one taking Zynga to court was EA over the sims social or whatever.

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          January 17, 2013 3:05 PM

          yup.

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          January 17, 2013 3:51 PM

          Well it's either suck it up, cry about it, or sue and waste your money suing and getting nothing and paying damages.

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          January 17, 2013 3:54 PM

          it is, yeah

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          January 17, 2013 4:19 PM

          they should compete.

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          January 17, 2013 4:58 PM

          absolutely. the small mom & pop flat-top burger place has to deal with McDonalds

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          January 17, 2013 10:37 PM

          What a bunch of assholes in this subthread.

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        January 17, 2013 3:02 PM

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          January 17, 2013 3:04 PM

          Got ya. Well, that makes more sense.

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          January 17, 2013 4:17 PM

          Meanwhile, actual gaming news goes unposted. Zen United receives Persona 4 Arena Europe release? Nah, not newsworthy! http://www.shacknews.com/chatty?id=29540012#item_29540012

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            January 17, 2013 4:18 PM

            ...er, receives Persona 4 Arena Europe build, heading closer to posting a release date, but not yet. Maybe it was turned down because there's no date yet, but hey, Joystiq wrote an article, and I added some insight in the comment.

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              January 17, 2013 4:21 PM

              Not that i'm unhappy about it but i noticed that japaneses console games are getting less and less coverage while PC games dominate the news these days.

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                January 17, 2013 6:03 PM

                might have something to do with their sales totals/review scores on the whole

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          January 17, 2013 9:01 PM

          Yuup.

          And Rocket is just being a normal human in this instance. The Shacknews blowback is pretty funny and pretty stupid, IMO.

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      January 17, 2013 3:01 PM

      Good for him for being upfront about it, AMA is not really a place that lends itself to being professional anyway imo.

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        January 17, 2013 5:10 PM

        that's silly. there are a thousand easy ways to write what he said and sound just as genuine and emotional while still being more graceful and tactful than he was.

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          January 17, 2013 5:55 PM

          What does it matter? He wasn't writing a press release, he was being candid on what is essentially a forum where the topic is him responding to questions and comments.

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            January 17, 2013 6:08 PM

            I think being gracious is a bonus.

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              January 17, 2013 6:16 PM

              Personally I've never found Rocket to be rude or out of line. I respect his honesty and he doesn't dance around answers. When he talks or posts, you know he is telling you exactly how he feels or is giving you insight into his thought and work process.

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      January 17, 2013 3:04 PM

      The point is, and I agree, is that the names of the games are too similar that is has created confusion in the marketplace that diminishes the value of the DayZ brand. I would be furious. If Dean Hall were a large company with money for lawyers, then he could pursue legal means to force The War Z creators to change their name, but unfortunately for him he doesn't have those resources.

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      January 17, 2013 8:40 PM

      Rock on Rocket.

      I've played 35 hr of what you're selling, and I believe in your vision.

      Sometimes you just gotta call it out when the other guy's plain trying to rip off.

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      January 18, 2013 7:13 AM

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        January 18, 2013 5:01 PM

        He just had an AMA. Otherwise he's been pretty quiet.

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      January 18, 2013 7:48 AM

      Trademark your creative works. This kind of thing is exactly why it exists. He couldn't block the sale of the game, but it could have very easily forced a name change.

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      January 19, 2013 12:51 AM

      I looked at this expecting him to be agitated with how bad War Z is, not bitching about the name. Petty. He gonna complain about World War Z as well?

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      January 24, 2013 10:32 AM

      Whatever criticisms this guy gets he probably deserves, but he's now my hero.

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