Report: PSP outselling Vita 2-to-1
The PSP is still outselling the Vita by a 2-to-1 margin, according to a report extrapolated from various Sony figures.
Vita sales have never really taken off, even as Sony insists it's too early to cut the price. In fact, based on figures provided by Sony, it appears their last-generation handheld, PSP, is still outselling the Vita by more than a 2-to-1 margin.
CVG reports that the Vita sold about 400,000 units worldwide in the financial quarter between April and June of this year. Sony told investors that the two platforms combined sold about 1.4 million units during the quarter, which means the PSP itself sold one million units.
Keep in mind, these sales are for the most recent quarter, not a comparison of the PSP at the same point in its lifespan. The older system has a significant price advantage over the Vita now, not to mention a pretty hefty library of relatively cheap games.
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replySteve Watts posted a new article, Report: PSP outselling Vita 2-to-1.
The PSP is still outselling the Vita by a 2-to-1 margin, according to a report extrapolated from various Sony figures.-
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Yeah, it seems like such an awesome device but it's such a hard sell these days, especially with expensive games. They'd need to be giving out vita versions free (or super cheap) with PS3 versions, and have lots of good cheap downloadable games.
Still, I don't know if they could ever do free or 99 cent games, and I do know that my little cousins carry around iPods and now iPads. I think they do 3DS too. I've seen various kids carrying iPods and DSs around but never a vita and possibly never a PSP either.
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No way I could play a game like Rayman Origins with a touch screen.
Likewise, there's no way I'd pay $200-250+ for a device to play Rayman and the game itself when there're plenty of massively cheaper, serviceable time wasters on devices I already own.-
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I'm sure a smart guy like yourself can figure out the problem with "but there are other games to buy" when my initial comment was about the problems with the relative price of the hardware and software compared to what I already have available.
Great, you bought the Vita for 4 games, so now it's a $400 investment. I can find serviceable to great iOS games for anywhere from free to a few dollars and still avoid the atrocity that is virtual sticks. It's quite obviously not a compelling value proposition for the majority of consumers. It's not like we're unaware of the value of dual sticks and buttons.-
Yep. Even if you take cellular costs into account, the Vita still seems like a bad investment. How many games could you get for the same cost of a cell contract? 2-3? Whereas an iOS or Android user could get a ton of free (or close to it) games, plus have all of the benefits of the smartphone. No physical controls, sure, but I'm willing to give them up for all the other benefits.
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As far as I know, they're the same.
The main reason, the reason above all others, and the reason that the heretofore best portable console was the PSP: Sleep Mode, and how incredibly efficient the battery life is while in same.
The fact that I don't have to wait for the system to boot, the game to load, the stack of splash screens to laze by, and then load the save means I am 1000% more likely to pick the game up at any given time.
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That's what "almost" happened to me :| if it wasn't for Rayman Origins, i wouldnt have bought it
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Rayman origins is a game to play with other people sharing a couch. The problem is that people have their phones with them all the time anyway, and their primary gaming will typically be at home, so all they need is something good enough, not their AAA titles.
Do you have a public transit commute or down time or something where you have time to play serious portable games?-
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I have to assume that's not the primary scenario Sony is aiming at, especially for a game like Rayman which has home console iterations that are (now cheaper and) easier to play co op. I mean you're talking about a device that costs the same as a PS3, but one is obviously optimized around being played at home while the other...
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I hope the Vita can sell enough to make it viable. I think the bubble has to burst with touch screen gaming at some point to where real gamers will come back to 3DS & Vita. I have an iPad and iPhone and other than something simple like Angry Birds, I hate gaming on it with games that need proper physical controls.
I would love to get a Vita but $250 is just to much for me right now. If they start bundling it with a gamer or 2 and a memory card then I might consider one for Christmas (from the wife). -
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Oh fuck no! Gonna get my moneyhats and go to gamestop and get me a vita, pronto.
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This is depressing because the Vita is such a great piece of gaming hardware. The screen is gorgeous and responsive and the controls are great. It's stuck in the unfortunately circular situation of people not buying it because there "aren't any games" (I disagree but whatever), and developers aren't developing because the user base is too small. Sony seems to be bleeding too much money in general to be able to fully invest the amount needed to really give it the kickstart it deserves.
Oh, and it doesn't help that the Internet is filled with so much anti-fanboyism for the Vita and Sony in general it kind of blows my mind. I don't even know WTF happened to their public image, it's not like they're EA or something.
Just makes me sad man, it's like watching the death of good gaming. People complain about no new consoles or games but when something new and good comes out they don't buy it and it bombs. What's gonna happen when next-gen finally comes out and the X720 or PS4 or whatever retails for $500-$600 at launch? I don't get it man, people drop $700 on a new iPad without blinking an eye even though they own the previous gen and it's only a marginal upgrade... marketing works I guess?
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I'd totally buy it considering they have a large PSP library available. I won't, though, because Sony forces me to re-purchase PSP games I already own.
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That would require Sony as an organization to admit that their launch software lineup is weak though, which they'd never do. Honestly, I'm amazed Sony's still in the handheld market given the ass whooping they've received since the PSP debuted. I'd be shocked if they do another generation of handheld after Vita.
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Not that I'm saying the 3DS will go down the same route but I think user ecosystem seems more important to developers than install-base these days.
This is nothing new. Attach rate has always been an important number for platform owners along with marketshare. The Wii was just the first high marketshare console with such an abnormally low attach rate. There's really no possible way for a platform to better another with an order of magnitude larger install base via a better attach rate. Plus the larger marketshare always means you have a higher potential ceiling regardless.
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There aren't any games...that is why it has been a waste of money. I can't see how you can say that is not the #1 reason. Look at the release list for the past 4 months...nothing really. Resistance? That game alone probably killed the system. Such a nice piece of hardware. Whoever is running Sony should gut themselves now.
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I really feel like all the vita needs is a couple more fantastic games and a price cut. They are fucking slick as hell and feel great, but when it's $250+ price tag is sitting right next to the $130 price tag of the 3DS you kind of wonder why it's so expensive.
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i just saw this list on IGN:
Upcoming high-profile Vita titles include Call of Duty: Black Ops Declassified, Assassin’s Creed III: Liberation and Need for Speed: Most Wanted, as well as Sony’s own PlayStation All-Stars Battle Royale, Sly Cooper: Thieves in Time, Killzone: Mercenary, Ratchet & Clank: Full Frontal Assault and Tearaway.
I'll be getting AC3, PS allstars, and maybe black ops and most wanted. sucks that we have to be so patient.-
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All the PSP games I bought for the Vita:
Disgaea
Disgaea 2
Prinny : So you want to be the hero
Prinny 2: Operation panties dood!
Phantom Brave
Grand Theft Auto: Chinatown wars
God of Way: Chains of Sparta
Even with all of those PSP games i play Vita games 99.9% of the time.
Can you guess which one I've clocked 10 million hours....uh, I mean 110 hours?
Disgaea 3: Absence of Detention
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I just finished Cycle 1 and am on the Epilogue. I haven't even started Cycle 2 yet as I'm leveling my characters to 6000+ and nabbing innocents in the Item World. I want ti Rick/Steam roll through Cycle 2 and play the real meat and potatoes...Land of Carnage 8)
I think after I clear LoC, and my wife stops giving me the stinkeye whenever she sees me whip out the Vita, I'm going to take a break from the Vita....so I can finally get around to playing Disgaea 4 on the PS3.
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There's 4 things the Vita needs to be successful.
1) A new iteration that abolishes the new memory card format. The cards have been proven to be slower than current high speed SD cards, so the only reason for doing this is for a blatant cash grab.
2) A way for people that own PSP games to play the games they already own without re-purchasing.
3) More games beyond the standard JRPG fare. The hardware is capable of playing console quality games (both visually and gameplay/controller wise). It's perfect for action games.
4) A price cut on both the hardware and the software. The fact that it's currently sitting at the same price as a PS3 is a major marketing fuckup on Sony's behalf. Knock $50 off and bring the games down to the $40 mark
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Viva La UMD!
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I was going to laugh but... what are Nintendo figures like? How long did the GBA SP outsell the DS? Did the DS outsell the 3DS and does it still?
The PSP was no slouch, apparently. It was outsold 2:1 by the DS but that also means it had a 33% market share.
But still, this is something you'd expect from a successor to a ridiculously popular piece of hardware like the DS, not the distant #2 like the PSP.-
Cursory googling suggests that the GBA outsold the DS for less than year after its release and the DS still outsells the 3ds at most 2:1 (2:1 as of a year ago), presumably with all DS versions included. The 3ds has beaten the DS in first year sales, though. I would expect that the 3ds will take over completely after the release of the XL.
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The PSP is beating the pants off of Vita because it is truly the best deal in gaming right now. PSP 3000 ($129 (probably down to $99 again this holiday season), 32 GB memory ($21.25), lots of good used games for $5-10, plus homebrew potential make it so much more attractive than the Vita to many people. Sony got greedy with not offering UMD backwards compatibility in the VIta and it's kicking them in the nads right now. They wanted to gut the used game market and make everyone pay it to play. For $200, you can get your game on in style with the PSP. There aren't enough quality games on the Vita to justify spending twice that to game on the go (Vita ($250), 32 GB memory ($80) and 3 games ($80)).
Also, while it's true that FPS's generally suck on the PSP, they also still suck on the Vita, because there are hardly any on the system.-
I laugh at the notion that you think people loading custom firmware onto their PSP are in any way buying used games for $5 - $10.....
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Okay, lets address his other points then, for your sake.
It's cheap. Agreed.
Aaaaaand, that's pretty much it.
I completely agree that it's cheap, and i'm sure that is why it's beating the Vita in sales. But I highly doubt that anyone going through the process of loading custom firmware onto their PSP is buying used games for $5 - $10.
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The PSP is the best deal in gaming right now (not just "cheaper").
There are quality games available at the $5-$10 price range.
Sony nuked backwards compatibility to gut the used game market, thereby forcing everyone to pay Sony to play a game on the Vita.
I did not say the PSP buyers who are lapping the Vita must buy used UMD games and dabble in homebrew, though I have it on deep background that there are those who do. Who wouldn't want to play PSOne Diable on the PSP???
There aren't enough quality games on the Vita to justify paying twice what you can pay to play quality games on the PSP.
Right now, the state of FPS's on both platforms suck.
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So narrow banded. There are plenty of folks who love the cheap UMD games, people who love the homebrew potential ('licit' and illicit), and those who dig both. It's not just cheaper - there are quality games to be had at that $5-$10 pricepoint that provide hours of entertainment for the buck.
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yup, fuck having to pay for the old PSP games again.
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The more interesting comparison seems to be one I saw on Engadget compared to the 3DS. At a similar point in their lives the 3DS had 3 million sales compared to 2.2 million for the Vita. So they're already behind the curve by a decent amount, and then that ignores how Nintendo felt the 3DS needed a huge price cut at that point, where as Sony can't cut the Vita's price yet and even when they do, it surely isn't going to be an $80 drop.
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I just want Kingdom Hearts Birth by Sleep to be available from the PSP store. :(
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It's a pointless comparison.
Sony has acknowledged how much of a double edge sword it is with the PSP. Yes, people buy the unit, but it's the most pirate ridden game system of all time. Noone buys the games or the movies, it's all pirated.
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This, plus the ridiculous prices of PS Vita games, I know many people who held off buying one because of he high price of games
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sony just emailed me this link: http://au.playstation.com/psp-e1000/
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Weird, first time hearing about that. Second Google result: http://www.geek.com/articles/games/sony-announce-the-psp-e1000-heres-why-you-dont-want-one-20110817/
Lol, don't see why you would get it over the PSP-3000...
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