Nintendo president calls fans 'insatiable'
Reggie Fils-Aime expressed some frustration with "insatiable" fans for being dissatisfied with the company's showing at E3 this year.
Nintendo fans, why do you have to be so hard to please all the time? Nintendo of America president Reggie Fils-Aime feels the company did quite a bit to sate fans this year, but they just keep demanding more. He says he "loves" this habit of the gaming community, but at the same time it "troubles [him] tremendously."
"One of the things that, on one hand, I love and, on the other hand, that troubles me tremendously about not only our fanbase but about the gaming community at large is that, whenever you share information, the perspective is, 'Thank you, but I want more.' 'Thank you, but give me more.' I mean, it is insatiable," Fils-Aime told Kotaku.
"And so for years this community has been asking, 'Where's Pikmin?' 'Where's Pikmin?' 'Where's Pikmin?' We give them Pikmin. And then they say, 'What else? For years, this community have said, 'Damnit Reggie, when you launch, you better launch with a Mario game.' So we launch with a Mario game, and they say, 'So what's more?' I have heard people say, 'You know, you've got these fantastic franchises, beyond what you're doing in Smash Bros., isn't there a way to leverage all these franchises?' So we create Nintendo Land and they say, 'Ho-hum, give me more.' So it's an interesting challenge."
He does have a point that the fans have been vocal about Pikmin and launching with Mario, and the company did debut Pikmin 3 and New Super Mario Bros U at E3 this year. On the other hand, a lack of surprise may be to blame for the fans being hungry for more. We've known about Pikmin since last year, and Nintendo announced the presence of a Mario game in April. Nintendo Land was a surprise of sorts, but it was mostly a repackaging of the tech demos that debuted last year.
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Reggie Fils-Aime expressed some frustration with "insatiable" fans for being dissatisfied with the company's showing at E3 this year.-
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Nah people were still pissed that Microsoft didn't shoe more first party games. I mean they only showed Halo4, a new Gears of War, a new Forza, Fable and a new IP in Ascend, buuuut that's not enough. Totally agree with Reggie and as for wanting suprises the internet and increasing media focus shuts that down.
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People wern't disappointed with that. People were unhappy with Microsoft spending (over 50%) of their time talking about things that are not gaming.
Gamers don't care about video on demand, or surface, or en espanol controls, or Win 8 phone integration. Gamers care about games. So at e3, present GAMES.
Also, the previewers for GoW and Forza were terrible. They showed nothing, so MS gets dinged for bad teasers. Additionally, The Fable 'game' is an on-rails kinect shooter.
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The problem is, their E3 showing *WAS* bad according to most folks(myself included). They had a chance to totally own the show and we got "NintendoLand". No Zelda, no Starfox, no Metroid, no Call of Duty, no Grand Theft Auto.....
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He points out that the gamer reaction to Brain Age, Nintendogs, and Wii Fit was "ho hum", but forgets that those titles were not traditional games. Those were titles that appealed more to non-gamers, back in the "it prints money!" era of the DS and the "Wii would like to play" heyday of the Wii. That was over 4 years ago, and most of those non-gamer customers got bored of "the Wii Sports and Wii Fit machine" and went off to casual games, iPhone games, and Zumba Fitness. That audience arguably carried the DS and the Wii, but they're not coming back.
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I agree... and I have a feeling they are really going to have a hard time with the Wii U if they can't get those people interested again. There is potential here for Nintendo to really fall on their face this time. I kind of get the feeling that they will get that casual crowd... or they wont. I don't see too much in between. If they fail... the system could be a complete flop and I'd honestly be a bit worried about Nintendo in the future. (I am also secretly wanting this to happen so they can just become a software company and I can play their awesome 1st party games without owning their stupid home consoles).
The other thing which I keep coming back to when I think about this console... they spent a whole console generation WAY behind in technology and that really killed their pull with the 'hardcore' audience. They really needed to jump almost two generations to get to something like what the next MS and Sony consoles will look like. But based on what we are seeing... that's not the case so they have probably less than a year to enjoy playing with the big boys... until PS4 and the 720 come out and they are back in the kiddy pool again. It just doesn't look good for Nintendo in my book. I guess I said the same thing about the Wii and ended up being wrong there. Nintendo does have the knack for pulling it off somehow so I guess we'll have to wait and see.
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Just like Sega, right. I mean things got sooo much better for them...and Sonic games got soooo much better too!
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lol nope
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Yea because the Wii and Wii fit, DS all didn't sell like gangbusters more than their competition.
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I don't know how successful they'd be and if it would ever happen, but I would personally love to see it happen. I don't want to buy Nintendo home consoles anymore (I do still like their handhelds) but I do miss those classic franchises which still remain to be excellent. I just don't get sick of Mario, Zelda and Metroid for some reason... at least when they are done well.
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The last time anyone was satisfied with an E3 showing was well over a decade ago. If 'the internet' ever thinks a thing at all, it's inevitably 'huge disappointment'.
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for hamburgers
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Come on, you guys! Don't you realize what a burden you're putting on Nintendo by demanding they make more of products you enjoy? How are they supposed to deal with that? Sometimes Nintendo just wants to sit in a corner making Wii Music for a while. Nintendo secretly wishes you'd all leave it alone.
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Don't worry Reggie, some of us are still trying to fill the void of not having MMLegends 3 on our 3DS.
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So out of touch.
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I don't necessary agree with that. Maybe they've lost touch with the CoD/bro gamer consumer base.
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They lost touch with me, a die hard nintendo fan since 1985/6. I am not a CoDbro gamer either.
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I'm starting to get a bit sick of all this dudebro CoD/bro stuff lately. It seems like an easy way to just dismiss an entire chunk of gamers who are not you. I honestly have no love for CoD and stopped buying them years ago.. but I really enjoy Gears of War games. Some people would call me a dudebro.. whatever because of that even though my favorite games of last year were probably Dark Souls, Limbo and Minecraft.. which are pretty far from that classification. And as deathofrats said... Nintendo seems out of touch to me and I've been a fan of theirs since the NES and original Gameboy.
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Looks at this thread. And look at how you're the only person who agrees. That's not imaginary. Nintendo. as i've said a multitude of times tries to get by on releasing 500 Mario games and wonders why nobody cares. Because there's so many other types of games people want to play and Nintendo ignores them. And then has the nerve to blame the consumer.
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Oh, I never meant to imply that this is imaginary. What I said is still the truth. Fans do shout for Pikmin, Mario, and the plethora of 3DS titles that eclipse what the Vita has, yet they're still never satisfied enough to say "this looks good, I'm excited."
I can't speak for anyone but myself. I liked what they showed and felt they had more for me as a gamer than Microsoft. Sony had good things too, and I liked them as well.
Nintendo has made it clear what kind of games they make. Love it or leave it.-
Agreed. People go beyond 'not interested'. They seem hurt/annoyed, for some reason. It's weird.
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I think the big point that Nintendo is missing is that we want something new. Well, new and good. Pikmin 3 looks great, but it's just more Pikmin. NSM2 looks good, but it's just more Mario. We've had close to 30 years of Mario by now, so seeing the same game again with a couple of extras doesn't do anything for the more vocal of us.
Banking on old IPs will only get you so far; you can either annoy people that want change, annoy people that don't, or just make exactly the same game every year. If Nintendo really want to break out of that cycle, they need to blow us away with a new IP, or they're going to keep falling rapidly out of touch.-
But honestly, who has produced anything really "new" We're getting another CoD, another Madden, another Assassin's Creed, another Halo, another Gears of War, another God of War.
Personally, I think that Nintendo, while being the smallest company out of the 3 console makers, they are the ones that take the most risk with their hardware. I can understand where Reggie is coming from. When I read gamer discussions on the internet, it's all about these gamers being NIntendo detractors while they praise their "bro gamer" 3 to 5-peat sequels. Can you really say that these other games have been new and good as well? I have several of those games that I've mentioned including their sequels and while they are some improvements, I don't seem them being so creatively different.
I'm not saying these other games are bad either, but I feel that they are just as guilty if not more so than Nintendo with what many gamers are complaining about. It's cool to bash CoD, which I think is pretty well deserved, but I don't see the same reaction like when I see people bitch about Nintendo. -
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Although keep in mind that those titles are nothing compared to Marios close-to-30 year reign, and they're already starting to quickly lose popularity.
Yeah gamers like sequels, but it gets hard to be excited about the 20th installment of a franchise. If Nintendo are complaining that people aren't excited, well then, there's the problem.
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i want f-zero and starfox
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We did: http://www.shacknews.com/chatty?id=28438126
It was... disappointing.
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There were a number of 1st party IPs and new 3rd party IPs that should've been shown but weren't (specifically thinking Project P:100 and Fire Emblem here) that would've won them best in show easy.
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reggie can cry all he wants first off every fan is not asking for pikman so he needs to stop crying and listen to what all Nintendo fans want freaking idiot
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'You know, you've got these fantastic franchises, beyond what you're doing in Smash Bros., isn't there a way to leverage all these franchises?' So we create Nintendo Land and they say, 'Ho-hum, give me more.' So it's an interesting challenge."
Nintendo Land is "leveraging all of their franchises"? wtf, Reggie. -
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I agree. Consoles and smart phones are two completely different things. Just the opposite, if people could buy a single console which did everything they wanted, I think most consumers would be very happy to never have to buy another one. I think the same thing goes for phones, but smart phones are still fairly immature compared to consoles which have been around a long time. Smart phones still have a lot of room for innovation and the need to make things faster, smaller and have longer battery life in the mobile space keeps the hardware iterating regularly. I wouldn't be too surprised if mobile phones get to the point in 10 - 15 years when they are powerful enough, light enough, battery life is not an issue and the software is mature to the point where you can keep the same phone for 3+ years and be totally happy with it. I think home gaming consoles are just further along in that curve.
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perhaps not "fixed" consoles, but WAY more handhelds. this is the mobile era, with highly disposable technology in the interim. remember how apple said ipads are HUGE conduits for gamers? well, nintendo needs to heed that warning. release way way way more mobile products.
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I still don't get what you're saying. That Nintendo needs to release more first party 3DS games, or more versions of their 3DS hardware or ?
Again, I don't think anyone wants to purchase new handheld gaming products each year. Not to mention how unattractive that would make them for any developer/publisher. That thing would see next to zero games in it's library. -
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Draw Something, Angry Birds, lots of other stuff I couldn't care less about.
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I don't know, I'm a pretty easy going guy and I tend to enjoy almost every press conference at E3 (even when fanboys on all sides are weeping openly in the streets). But if you work for Nintendo and you saw the plan for that press conference and thought that was an OK way to push a new console... then you should resign and go work in a flower shop or something. It was just so... impotent. There was no excitement or energy and when the thing was over it felt like that's when the good stuff should have started. They are globally launching the first 'next generation' system in many years... and they made it sound and feel like they had just made coffee for breakfast. It was horrible.
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...and one more thing. Giving people what they want and what they ask for... is not always a good thing. It's a lot better to give them something unexpected and awesome which they hadn't even thought of yet! Anybody can make 'more of the same' but to truly innovate and blow people away with creativity... that's a special skill (and one which Nintendo used to be very good at).
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Perhaps game companies are getting too defensive.
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All I want is online multiplayer for Wii games (NOT JUST HANDHELD), like Mario Kart and Mario Party. That would be nice.....I hate the fact that Mario Kart on the 3DS more entertaining than the one on the Wii and it has online multiplayer.
wtf?
