First footage of Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim released
Bethesda has released the first footage of its upcoming RPG adventure, The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim. Check out the old world, powered by a new engine.
Bethesda has just released the first gameplay trailer for The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim, its upcoming RPG adventure.
Along with showing off its new engine, the footage features the game's hero facing off against a menacing dragon. The footage is cut along with the same voice-over featured in the teaser trailer, which explains the plot of the game.
If that isn't enough for you, Bethesda has re-launched the official Elder Scrolls website in preparation of the upcoming fifth installment in the series.
The Elder Scrolls Skyrim hits the PC, Xbox 360, and PS3 on November 11.
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replyComment on First footage of Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim released, by Xav de Matos.
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Nerd boner.
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you're totally cheating at vanity search with this
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Seriously.
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EVERY BOX
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Well, I think the key is that eventually... they will be the same... right? Why start a new thread when you can talk about it in the official thread. The separation between front page and the chatty is like a ghost limb... you think it's there... you can FEEL it... but it's really not there.
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i'm eagerly looking forward to the many mods that will make this game awesome
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I would assume that every game generates their in-game trailer footage using whichever platform looks/performs the best. Since the 360 and PS3 are both 5-6 years old now, I assume that the game will probably look best on a current high-end PC.
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The graphics in this trailer aren't that great, so I'd hope it was console. But then again, the PC version will likely look just like the console version.
That aside, though, I've noticed most game trailers run the 360 version, even if the PC version looks better. I think the reasoning might be that they want to show it on the platform they expect it to sell the most on, so that most people will be familiar with what they're going to play.
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Looks good, but so did Oblivion and that game turned out to be shallow in the gameplay department. Hopefully the combat is more fun this time around, perhaps as awesome as it was in Dark Messiah of Might & Magic.
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Nice!
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player bug: Maximised, you lose all player controls, no way to pause it or un-maximise. Only way out is pressing Escape.
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This is the new "It's so cold and lonely in here" post that inevitably gets made and then nuked very time the chatty changed from Morning Discussion to Evening Reading.
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We also have it for download: http://www.shacknews.com/file/25755/elder-scrolls-v-skyrim-gameplay
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No kidding, I love the Elder Scrolls theme.
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a million boners right now at work....
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I'm definitely upgrading my video card before this is released. Hopefully, an AMD 6990 will be in my future once the old tax refund shows up. I can't wait to play Skyrim!
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that's sexy
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It's the Elder Scrolls theme that has been used for all of them I believe.
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It's silly that if you go to the Skyrim game page ( http://www.shacknews.com/game/the-elder-scrolls-v-skyrim ) and then click the Videos tab, this video isn't there.
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We're still cleaning some issues out. We only just launched.
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omg shack is so buggy I'm cancelling my sub.
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This is the kind of game that inspires a hardware upgrade.
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It's a good year for that what with BF3 and this.
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The 2166 socket should be out then as well as bulldozer, it'll be an awesome time in PC gaming.
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go on...
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awesome.
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The setting and potential plot excite me, but damn if those graphics don't look like shit compared to the newer stuff. Bethesda, get off your ass and write a new engine!
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Lies.
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they literally said it was a new engine. they told us that. in those words.
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They're using Havok for character animations, which they've never done before.
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but not for character animations.
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Animation and models are what I find unimpressive about this "new" engine.
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Not holding my breath on a great improvement there. The trailer quite clearly shows a sword missing a guy and still doing damage (blood animation plays). Don't especially care as long as the world building is on par with Morrowind.
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There aren't many games that track physical impacts like that. I think Age of Conan was one.
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I just got horribly spoiled by the melee combat in Demons Souls.
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yeah that wolf really stuck out to me
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I hate to nitpick but I agree here. That wolf's animation took me right out of the immersion.
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its new in the same way that quake 3 TA used a new engine from quake 3, or in the way KOTOR 2 was a new engine from KOTOR. its still the same gamebryo game engine, but with changes. at its core its the same game engine since oblivion though. the "new engine" stuff is marketing primarily, though I will give them credit in that fallout 3's implementation of GB was light years ahead of oblivion. if we see a similiar level of optimization from FO3 to skyrim, then i will nod my hat. But dont let the spiel fool you, its still gamebryo.
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Dude, it's not Gamebryo. Gambryo went bankrupt because Bethseda decided not to use the Gamebryo engine for their next game.
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i recall them mentioning that it was an upgraded version of the engine used in fallout 3. i cant remember where. people seem to believe they they have created a brand new game engine from scratch or liscensed some new, never before seen technology. its simply not true. this is gamebryo, it may be highly tweaked, but its gamebryo.
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FO3 was leaps and bounds better than oblivion. I think a large part of it was that they realized they had to, like, create artwork rather than pumping out some industrial, generic crap that could have been bought from "highfantsyartwork.com" and plugged into the game. It still boggles my mind that FO3 was from the same group that made oblivion, one of my favorite games of the past decade and one of my most hated.
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omg the videos play at work now thank god!
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I'm stuck in IE6 at work and I can't belive all this stuff works in IE6 great job!
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I think we're trying to add the ability to set your default video resolution in settings. No more clicking anything! 720p all the way.
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Yes! We have a brand new video system. The quality of the old one was terrible.
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^^^^^^^ I am happy
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Thank God. Now I don't have to switch over to GameTrailers.com to watch videos.
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So hard right now
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All of my dicks, etc, etc.
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Thanks.
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Your company is responsible for many hours of sleep that I've not been able to achieve. I hope you're satisfied.
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I predict November and December of this year to be dark months, filled with little sleep and much gaming.
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No way, integrate the Shack chatty coat of arms into a shield or set of armor; I would pay horse armor dollars for it!
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Looks really good but they don't have to sell me on it. Bethesda making a new RPG, of course I'm going to buy it.
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If they announced coop multiplayer, the sound of a million nerd splooshing vaginas would be heard.
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nicely done
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Holy Cow! Man does that look good! This is the year for RPG'ish games Dragon Age 2, The Witcher 2, Zelda, Elder Scrolls, Mass Effect 3, Deus Ex and more that I'm sure I'm forgetting! Best RPG of the year anyone? I'm thinking Elder Scrolls.
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i really hope they overhaul the entire magic system. destruction magic in oblivion was pretty much the worst and most boring shit ever.
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now that i think about it all of the combat sucked.
archery was the least painful out of all of them since it felt like i was playing an FPS a little bit at least.-
a stealth fps i mean, since nothing came to attack me since i got crits from headshots in stealth and it eityher died or high level stealth meant they didn't aggro ( i think )
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I regret not watching the trailer when I first saw this post... HOLY SHIT
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geedeck :(
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Wha? I mean I think tons of people will have fun with it and I hope they sell like 5 bajillion copies... I just see a sword, a dragon, a magic missle and I fall asleep.
And it's kind of silly of me, because give me an assault rifle, a mech and FTL travel, man I am happy as a clam.
I think both get from point A to point B, but technology acknowledges that we know things about the universe. Magic mostly says technology has no point... And then I get really bored because to me it's like they're ignoring half of why the world works, even if there is magic.
So, really I'm just waiting for Bethesda to get the Shadowrun license.
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Wow. Not sure why I don't like sandbox RPGs (because I love RPGs) but this looks AMAZING.
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Wow soundtrack. That modulation at 2:00 is so badass. I <3 Jeremy Soule.
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This footage is where wet dreams go to lay to rest.
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yea, and the skellingtons
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and will there still be photobombs??
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Sadly, no. They've already said that the dialog system won't 'pause' the game like in Oblivion. Everyone will keep going about their business behind you as you chat with an NPC.
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I suppose it does, but gone are the days of a nice still-frame shot of some mutant Oblivion NPC poking its head in over Modryn Oreyn's shoulders or something.
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good idea. people just didn't use the slider. the funniest thing was the backfiring of people trying to turbo level everything, going out of normal gameplay, then go UGH THE MUD CRABS RIPPED MY FACE OFF
well you spent 5 hours jumping around to level athleticism to max in the starting area....-
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One of my favorite mods for Oblivion leveled level-specific loot with you. So a particular dagger that was, say, a reward from a chain of quests would level automatically with you.
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that's true, but ultimately turbo-levelling had some drawbacks that people uncovered by consuming levels as fast as possible.
it just needed some more merchants to sell things IMO, like our pal in the DAO camp. always ready to sell you some scalable loot. then you can ENCHANTMENT??????? it and you are good to go.
but given that oblivion has skills that translate to levelling in those weapons, you'll still be levelling up.. you can hold down the conjuration button on the low magicka summon spell and gain 10 levels super fast and you haven't even moved. same with alchemy, which had the added benefit of selling tons of shit, which of course levels up speechcraft or whatever.....
so people's needs to do things faster exposed the flaw, in my opinion, as oblivion is a "do whatever you want" game. it doesn't have loot on rails. what you do will gain you levels. if you are super active and finding ways to level up fast, you have just chosen to leave gear behind. that was a choice the player made. the slider was always there to bail you out, but people didn't give a fuck and blamed something other than themselves.
and if the things didn't have some sort of auto level, the opposite would be true. you'd have the same turbo-levelling maximizers then say UGH THE WHOLE WORLD IS TOO EASY THIS IS DUMB
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well it's a nice option to augment how you are playing the game, it balances out how the player didn't account for their actions to keep them in the game.
since this type of game is all you, the slider is crucial. you could clear the first dungeon you come across and level up to max in there, we all know that. does that mean the game design is broken? fuck no. use the slider.-
i think it does mean the game design is broken. you shouldn't be able to level up to max in the first dungeon.
this is really about my expectations for game difficulty: i expect that at the beginning of the game i'm going to pick a challenge level, and that the game is going to get gradually but not insurmountably harder from there in a pretty much linear fashion until the finale of the game. this is how most games work. if i have to lower the difficulty midstream, i feel like i've failed as a player to keep up with the difficulty progression, and that's a bad feeling.-
That is of course the ideal for every game. The problem is that most games simply cannot deliver that experience. Hell, it's that exact line of thinking that I'm sure pushed Bethesda to implement the level scaling system in the first place. The slider basically ensures that you can get the gaming experience that you deserve. It's almost like a recognition on the developer's part of their inevitable failure to live up to expectations of pacing like yours. They did the best they could with their vision, but they're cool enough to say "if you don't feel like it's working, customize this bitch yourself!"
I never even used the slider for the entirety of the Oblivion main storyline/most of the guilds, though. I didn't think the difficulty was that out of wack until I started playing again recently.-
most games do deliver that experience, at least at standard difficulty. i think it's mostly a problem in oblivion because it's sandboxy and you can break the difficulty curve despite playing how you're "supposed" to play. the example is kvatch, which is routinely too hard for a green character to finish by the time they get there.
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right, which is why it seems broken. it's not that it's hard or easy, it's that it's totally arbitrary. i think it was around level 10 that the leveled-up-without-finding-appropriate-gear problem was very severe. unfortunately it was easy to do this if you explored a few diversions on your way to kvatch, which the whole sandboxy nature of the game encourages you to do.
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that second sentence is the crux. in the open world games, people want that freedom. if you choose to do that, the game now is warped around your decision.
if they clamp it down and levelling is locked, you have severely changed the gameplay and restricted options... which would also backfire.
so, the slider is there, and it works both ways.
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The slider turned my Oblivion experience from "oh wow, here's some more bandits with fucking glass armor that take 5 minutes to kill" to a quite tolerable RPG more in line with traditional stuff. Lowering it by 1 percent when I felt things weren't reacting how they should could mean all the difference. I liked that it was there and it better still be there in Skyrim.
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I think I prefer the model in MMOs where different areas are level appropriate
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that is a more defined scenario, like WoW for example, where it works really well. you have specific quest hubs to guide you through the zones and then you hit max level.
however, the entire world is supposed to be that zone and allow you to go where you want, when you want, and level how you want.-
I think it would be cool to just have different dungeons and zones and to randomly set their levels at the start of a game, so it turns out different next time you play -- as opposed to dynamically changing
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when you get your ass kicked and you come back later.. or you pay attention to their equipment
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everquest had a feature where you could query a mob to find out if it was easy, your level, or way out there in terms of difficulty. certainly something similar could exist, as a spell if nothing else
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Imagine how crazy Oblivion player characters must've seemed to the NPCs.
Standing in one place for hours without moving, waiting for stores to open or something.
Jumping all the time, everywhere.
Always running, even just to cross a room.
Repeatedly setting themselves aflame with magic spells without a second thought.
And all the time, staying silent except for the occasional grunt of pain when they fall from a height or get hit with a particularly nasty weapon.-
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It's going to work similarly to FO3. So, each dungeon will have a 5 level scale, and it will spawn as close to your level as possible, and it locks in when it is spawned. So for example,
Dungeon 1 (level 5-10)
Dungeon 2 (level 15-20)
Dungeon 3 (level 25-30)
You take your level 16 guy into Dungeon 1. Creatures in there will be level 10, and you thrash all you see. You go to Dungeon 2, and the mobs there are level 16, and it's a good solid fight. You try out Dungeon 3, and the mobs there are level 25 and push your shit in. You come back to Dungeon 3 later, as a level 30 guy, and it is still a level 25 dungeon. -
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I hope so; the leveling always bothered me and kept me from finishing past ES games.
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Cup filled.
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I think I disagree. The Oblivion trailer, watching it now after having played a shitload of Oblivion, clearly shows all the ultra-stiff animations and pretty simplistic combat. I think the combat shown in the Skyrim trailer has much greater potential for variety.
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Same here. I like to give a developer like Bethesda the benefit of the doubt in a case like this, though. The difference in terms of gameplay polish/execution from 2006 to now is pretty striking in general. I mean, look at the jump in terms of quality/production values from NWN2 to DA:O, or something like the Witcher 2. I'm not saying anything about the individual merits of those games, just that the standard for quality has been raised the fuck up.
That kind of ideology, coupled with my absolute trust in Bethesda (especially given their proven track record of progression; Morrowind->Oblivion->FO3) make Skyrim my least worried-about high profile game of 2011.
Bethesda won't steer you wrong with the Elder Scrolls.-
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Definitely, you really gotta let your inner Elder Scrolls uber-nerd jizz all over this though, just this once. It looks fantastic.
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What do you mean by this, good sir?
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The oblivion AIs go to sleep at night.
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That is a load of crap, even you know it, just read that back to yourself.
Oblivion barely has an a.i., anybody whose done modding of it knows it. I've done some FO3 modding myself, very moddable game, very very stupid a.i.
Radiant AI was PRed so much before release as some kind of revolutionary step up, that AI would know and act intelligently, would have needs and wants and work to satisfy them. None of that is true, nothing happened. The AI routine in Oblivion is not as good as Gothic's, and older game, with no animation at all on either ends, they just stare at walls for 8 hours in different places.-
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i think his argument is that the AI in oblivion was so bad, that it does not justify the term AI. its really just alot of A. I cannot comprehend how someone would look at oblivion and think "this is good, well coded AI behavior". it was fucking atrocious. I dont care how robust the scripting was in the construcion set, i dont care how many boxes you could check for things it could do, i dont care how many lines of scripting you could plug into it; it was fucking awful. Everything it did, or was done with it through the construction set that was remotely interesting was completely scripted.
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The problem is you're entirely wrong. The AI will walk around and have spontaneous conversations with other AI characters. Characters that are set up to do so will find and eat food at certain times. Not specific food, either. There's a quest based on that where you put a poisoned apple down, they eat it, and die, and you can use the apple to kill other people because of the behavior. Guards respond to certain behavior, even if it's not the PC doing it. You can set up these behaviors in the editor. It's not labeled "Radiant AI", but it's there.
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That's not Radiant AI.
NPCs walk to their spot, stare at a wall for 8 hours, then it's time to move on to their next spot. What food they eat are spawned directly in their inventory, nothing's lifted off the tables, and there are a looot of tables full of stuff. Guards will chase you into the bottom of the rivers. Etc.
So basically a much-publicized feature isn't there. What is there's easily not as good as the one Gothic 2 has, many years before. Lifelessness doesn't just come from one thing, it's from all of these things - the crippled ai, the large world full of nondescript reshuffled assets, the single digit npc on screen at all times.
Given everything, I don't believe a thing Bethesda says in regards to TES until it actually happens in the game itself, with the game running. Fallout revival gives it a little credit, and honestly that is its own thing with its own established fanbase.
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it's a weird tradeoff. in Oblivion all of the miscellaneous city-dwellers are NPCs you can talk to or fight with or rob or whatever. they all have homes and personalities. however, there just aren't that many of them, and the result is that towns feel like ghost towns. OTOH you have GTA or Assassin's Creed, where the city is full of miscellaneous mostly non-interactive nobodies but the cities feel alive.
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The GTA games always felt pretty empty to me. Yeah, there are a lot of bodies, but they're really more like vaguely mobile obstacles than actual people. Assassin's Creed did better, since there was more variety to the characters, and the characters seemed to have more different types of reactions and behaviors.
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they're not perfect but i think both of these franchises do that "this is a real city" feeling much better than Elder Scrolls. in Fallout 3 i could forgive it more because, well, it is a wasteland. but still, why are you standing around a shitty shop all day when you live in a town with 10 people? can't they just come find you when they want to buy something?
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*grabs long list of logic problems with FO3*
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One of my favorites: you hack three computer terminals to gain access the lowest level of the facility to find tires, heaps of dirt, and junk. Oh, and the lights are still on.
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The hype for each TES game is like the biggest mass delusion ever. When you take off the glasses there really is quite nothing worth the hype, high review scores and commercial success in The Elder Scrolls games. So empty, cold and vacuous games. The epitome of mediocrity and so on.
Those couple of times I've decided to give a TES game a try I've ended up asking myself why the heck I'm bothering with this crap and what is it that makes these games sell so well. Perhaps it's because The Elder Scrolls is really equivalent to the Lady Gaga's and Justin Bieber's of the music world.-
I think it's because they're actually pretty good games.
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You must think a lot of shackers like Justin Bieber:
http://www.shacknews.com/article/41349/the-elder-scrolls-iv-oblivion
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I don't know what it is that's in this game that brings out the absolute mental midget in a lot of people.
When people said Oblivion is lifeless, that's a conclusion they arrived at after many double digit hours in the game with an eye toward qualities that already exist in contemporary games. Give them props for all that art in the game, the gameplay's basic diablo in 3D.
So yeah I agree when you called it a mass delusion, it's happened with Doom 3 as well.-
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Don't be ridiculous.
You seem to be highly aditated over this game. I'm guessing you've spent, what, at least 300+ hours playing this game for your reactions to be this obtuse.
There are a few more considerations to take for Oblivion than just 1 dimensional AI or repetative cave systems. Do you think everyone plays games just the way you do?
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yeah, if whacking monsters ala diablo isn't the point, there's no point left.
it amazing to me that you're compelled by its story when lined up against the stark contrast of the presentation, with like maybe 10 npcs on screen max. It's like the story tries to be goliath and the presentation david.
go walk about the different towns, see how many outer walls you find that an average guy can pull himself up and over, and then think about the big siege machines. I remember one's like chest high in one spot.-
breaking news: a game has an uneven sense of scale. more at 11.
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Funny you should mention scale, and that you're saying it's somehow okay to call a few little huts with a big hut in the middle a city, and not a village.
If you can only show villages, tell village stories, tell human stories, not some epic world-spanning world-saving story where a few villages are at stake. Those are some crappy low stakes compare to the fantasy you're selling.-
well, that's most games. the cities in dragon age are a joke, size-wise. RPGs in particular suffer from this due to technological issues.
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the witcher certainly has that issue
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in either case though, you know it's an illusion. i don't see how making gates permanently locked and placing invisible walls in the player's path is any more effective than having an epic tale of intrigue occur in a "city" of 100 citizens.
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You seem incapable of grasping the notion that exploration and discovery can be fun in and of themselves, with no other particular benefit or reward.
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Xulu, just ask Arcanum why you can't read books in FO3.
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Xulu, you've got to get that sand out of your vagina; it's making you cranky. Does it itch?
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the entire world and every dungeon was handmade. i thought the locales were pretty varied and the different topographies were interesting.
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yep. i never cared for the oblivion gates past the first couple. but the overworld, that was fun shit to explore. and yeah, some dungeons were similar to others. in that they contained stairs, traps, and doors. and yeah, some dungeons had no big surprise at the end, no tough boss, and maybe not even great loot. but that's kind of the point: you never know what's around the corner.
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yep. i never cared for the oblivion gates past the first couple. but the overworld, that was fun shit to explore. and yeah, some dungeons were similar to others. in that they contained stairs, traps, and doors. and yeah, some dungeons had no big surprise at the end, no tough boss, and maybe not even great loot. but that's kind of the point: you never know what's around the corner.
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Not to mention the Shivering Isles pretty much made up for the shortcomings of Cyrodiil.
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If that's true it sure didn't feel like it. Most of the world was empty space and every cave I went in was practically the same as the last.
Morrowind was a lot better in that regard. I actually enjoyed exploring that world and it seemed like more care went into it's construction. Oblivion's world was straight up boring and uninspiring to me.-
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We'll see. Fallout 3 benefited from having real-life source material to work with. Fantasy settings require more imagination. I like what is being shown in Skyrim though so far but they really need to create interesting landmarks this time. Endless rolling green hills and trees isn't going to be nearly enough to keep it interesting.
I'm most concerned with them releasing a stable game on a new engine though. Their track record with that is the absolute worse.-
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Yeah the games are different but I don't think you'll be disappointed in this regard. Dungeons in particular are something I'm heavily involved with in Skyrim.
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I don't know offhand how many env artists there are, but there's about 100 people total on the dev team. That doesn't include marketing, QA, admin and that sort of thing, just developers.
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It's true. Oblivion was a piece... Bethesda have terrible low production values, I wouldn't call them a AAA studio. Their models, animations, AI, UI, terrain formation (looks much better in ESV tho), and DIALOG are all pisspoor. The dialog is as if it were written by a 13 year old. Just seems loopy and baby-ish. This fits with Bethesda's forum management, though, where it's basically a playpen for toddlers. I can only guess that the whole "from the minds of tots" thing is a theme that stems from Bethesda ownership.
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i guess i'm supremely successful at deluding myself because i've sunk over 100 hours into oblivion and countless dozens more into past elder scrolls games
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Cold and vacuous are good descriptions. They're technically crap, too. Bloodmoon was great in its time, but since then Bethesda have just not produced anything of quality. Bethesda truly has the lowest production values of any AAA studio, and it makes their games an embarrassment to play, imo.
Their models, animations, AI, UI, terrain formation (looks much better in ESV tho), and DIALOG are all pisspoor. The dialog is as if it were written by a 13 year old. Just seems beyond basic and baby-ish. This fits with Bethesda's forum management, though, where it's basically a playpen for toddlers. I can only guess that the whole "from the minds of tots" thing is a theme that stems from Bethesda ownership.
In addition, the voice delivery in their games is just plain awful. It makes the characters seems really loopy and gives the game a padded-walls feel that kills the atmosphere.
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Except, you know, for all the gameplay it had in it.
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Oblivion was a fantastic game. Flawed, but fun as all hell. I am greatly looking forward to Skyrim.
You might want to get that sand in your vagina cleaned out.
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looks crazy :D
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please be the iteration where pressing "Take All" actually fills your inventory with things you might want.
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MAX motherfucking VON SYDOW!
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Pics/Divx. Where are they?
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...should've refreshed. :)
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The combat looks very visceral. The character getting knocked around seems like it's gonna be great. I also like the implementation of viewbob when you are running right at the beginning. It gives some weight to the movement.
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yes I think so too
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should I get a GTX460?
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I would wait until closer to the release. The 460 is awesome though :)
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i bought that 9.99 or whatever Batman:AA deal (haven't played it yet) and want to play with PhysX... thinking about it...
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Depends on if you want to upgrade now or later, the Radeon 7000 series will be out before Skyrim and likely Nvidia's 600 series too.
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me too! I think I will wait until the fall though...
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Radeon 7000 series, GTX 600's, and the 2133 SB (or is it Ivy Bridge?) should be out around then too, a very exciting time.
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They're saying it might show up on 1155 in the second half of this year, and I meant 2011 socket, which looks like it'll be suped up Sandy Bridge.
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I really hope the new engine doesn't run like shit. I can play Bulletstorm with all details maxed on my Q6600 with a new nVidia card and that game is gorgeous.
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I'm gonna have to SLI my 460. I'm not in the mood to plunk down $200+ on a new card again.
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a single 460 won't handle this you think?
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LOL I Second this suggestion.
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Start ShackNews2.com and sell it :)
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Seriously though, I know I'm supposed to be all cool and levelheaded when it comes to games because I need to look at it with a critics eye but... ALL OVER MY FACE.
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it's ok. It's face worthy
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yea that shit looks siiiiick!
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Xav, did you hear they wrote their own dragon language?
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! DRAGONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!-
I've been told by a friend that inventing a language actually isn't that hard.
He once did something in primary school - he can't remember what - that made the teacher so angry, they told him to go sit in the cupboard. He spent the rest of the year in there. He never told his parents because he was afraid they'd go mental at him (at that age, teachers are always right) and so he entertained himself in the free time he had after finishing his work by developing his own language.
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It looks real good. I'm a huge Elder Scrolls mark.
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Radiant AI is supposedly improved, hopefully including ambient things like this.
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Fuck that spider!
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Looks decent enough - certainly a bunch of improvements have been made to the game engine (by the looks of it), but at the same time, I still find it oddly underwhelming. I thought the dragon flying animation at the very end was pretty clunky-looking. :( Still, I'm sure it'll deliver what it's trying to deliver, and in spades. :)
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I totally agree about the clunky flying animation at the end. The relatively small wings also make it look a bit weird.
Apart from that, I'm very impressed with the trailer.
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In their tongue, he's Dovahkiin: Dragon Born!
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It means "Dragon Born," not dragon kin, just FYI.
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We got this game for single player and BF3 for multiplayer and then Portal 2 for coop crossplatform puzzle play. These three games alone (not to mention their inevitable DLC) could easily keep me busy for a year or more. This year is definitely one for the record books.
I generally upgrade my PC at my own pace when it is most affordable but not for 2011. This time the actual content is so compelling I am willing to start saving now to buy new hardware just for a handful of titles, not to mention the other 6+ solid releases we're getting.
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Holy cow, this is an awesome trailer. I especially like the narrator. I recognize his voice, but can't place his name....
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Are you on drugs? It has DRAGONS!
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oh god, those liquid walls give me acid flashbacks
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Holy crap that looks amazing. I wasn;t expecting such a jump in graphics from Oblivion.
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I kinda doubt it. This isn't like Oblivion where they showed us stuff way early in development with consoles they were uncertain of the power of. They know what they can do, and the game is coming out later this year...I'd wager that is about how the game will look, and most of "in-game" looking stuff really did look exactly like I'd expect. It's a step up from Oblivion/FO3, but not a leap.
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When optimization time comes as release gets closer, that's when sacrifices are made and visual fidelity starts going down in many titles, especially when trying to squeeze more performance from the consoles. That doesn't mean the PC version has to suffer too, but Vincent Grayson mentioning Oblivion reminded me of them ditching their dynamic shadowing from the E3 build they were showing off before release.
I wish they would make some large scale art and tech changes though. Some of the art on the models and stuff like rocks especially have that same overtly fake / poorly rendered look that was big in Oblivion and Fallout 3. They said it was an all new engine and while some things do look much improved it still retains some of those not so aesthetically pleasing aspects that really bugged me. I've never been able to put it into words that other people can comprehend sufficiently, they have decent artists but the way their engine renders those assets reminds me of software modes in older games, but in HD and with bumpmapping and shaders and normal maps and that kind of junk thrust on top for better or worse if that makes any sense. It's not as natural looking as it could be or should be. Not quite that Doom 3 plasticy thing, but just slightly off from something that would look really impressive and immersive.
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I really don't think we'll see any major upgrades until there's a new console generation. While I'm sure there's still room to improve on the current generation, I doubt we're going to see a lot of games that look significantly better than what we have now.
I'm fine with how the game looks from these trailers, and I think it looks better enough to account for an improved engine and what they've learned from the past two games, but not so good that it's clearly going to get knocked down a notch or two before release.
Honestly, I'm mostly excited about how combat looked to be more dynamic with some techniques beyond "hit guy with weapon" and "hit guy with weapon from another angle", and while I didn't see dynamic shadows on everything, it at least looked like maybe they've finally got them outdoors (on buildings and such), which would go a long way to improving the look of the game. -
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I know everyone is gushing over this and it does look very good however at the 1:27 - 1:29 mark not sure if its the video but the game looks like ass.
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I know I'm supposed to be excited but...dragons? Yawn.
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If you're in town, I'm gonna buy you a beer. Then I'm gonna break the bottle across the side of your face while singing this.
Enjoy your evening.
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DRAGON reBORN!!!!
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Someone posted just the music: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XTclvp0Nidk
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That's from the small trailer. Not the new one.
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Hopefully this one isn't terrible like Oblivion was. The graphics are pretty poor, though. The trees (and well, everything) are ridiculously low poly and that wolf animation is... um, not worthy of a B studio. The water is a flat scrolling texture (lol), and the terrain surface is kept quite flat to reduce polys. Textures aren't great, either.
People shouldn't be fooled by this small video, wait till high res screenshots come out, this looks graphically well dated. Before someone says the Gameplay > Graphics argument... neither can make it on their own without the other. Believable environments draw you in as much as anything does, sometimes moreso than the other elements... but a scrolling texture to simulate a river doesn't qualify as believable.-
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I agree that this is probably the 360 version, and sometimes a PC version will look better, but I don't think that it'll be so here. I doubt Bethesda have a whole separate set of textures, models, animations, water rendering for the PC version. I think the PC version will look like the 360, with the difference being draw distance.
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Actually, that's probably not an unreasonable request for something like ~5 years from now.
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Now that's not true at all. I don't know if you're blurring the line between graphics and world design, but Gothic 3 had far superior graphics years ago (but it was not a console game), though the game was a big flop. I don't remember which other open world RPGs I've played in the last few years, so I can't make more comparisons. Still, I'm not comparing open world RPG to open world RPG. I'm comparing decent modern graphics to this. It's only consoles that couldn't handle far greater graphics and still be an open world setting.
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Instant purchase based on the Morrowind Theme Song
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Wow these game designers bust there asses to bring the general public a great game and all you people do is complain about it, I'd love to see just one of you make a $30 million game that everyone will enjoy playing.
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I find it amusing when people who clearly want something other than what these games try to offer drop by threads to shit all over them.
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