Watch the 'Unleashed' Apple Special Event here
Here's how you can watch the October 18 Apple Special Event.
It was only a month ago that Apple revealed the iPhone 13 as well as a host of other products at its September showcase, but the tech company isn’t done just yet. Today, Tim Cook and other leads at Apple will take the stage once again, to talk about more of the company’s products and services that weren’t featured at September’s event. With devices like the MacBook Pro and Generation 3 AirPods hitting the rumor mill it’s surely one you won’t want to miss. Let’s look at how you can watch the “Unleashed” Apple Special Event.
Watch the ‘Unleashed’ Apple Special Event here
Today’s Apple Event, nicknamed “Unleashed,” will take place today at 10 a.m. PT/1 p.m. ET. The event will be streamed live on Apple’s website, as well as on the company’s YouTube channel. If you’re interested in seeing the showcase, make sure you’re there at the beginning, as Apple usually doesn’t offer ways to scrub back until the broadcast has concluded.
We have no confirmation on what products and services will be shown during the event, as Apple likes to keep that information under wraps until the showcase begins. That said, some rumors, as well as past patterns from the company do give us a hint as to what to expect from the Apple Special Event. Many believe that we’ll see the newest iteration of the MacBook Pro, possibly with a fancy new chip as well. It’s also a likely bet that we may hear about the Generation 3 AirPods, as those are about due for an upgrade.
That’s how you can watch the “Unleashed” Apple Special Event, which is taking place today. If you aren’t able to catch the stream, no worries, as we’ll be covering all of its news over on our topic page dedicated to Apple.
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The hype cycle is finally over as of 2hrs from now. Apple's Unleashed event is rumoured to deput their new line of M1X Macbook Pros. There is a lot riding on these machines and the expectations are running pretty high!
Latest rumours include Mini LED displays, 120hz refresh rate, No FaceID, and OMG a bloody NOTCH on the display. Yep you heard me.
http://wheniskeynote.com/
https://www.apple.com/
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I knew I couldn't pull off those shacktags :(
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You have no idea :(
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Someone made a mock up - https://i.redd.it/a78oedjzrxt71.png
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Hah yep, when the rumors started to emerge over the weekend I was convinced it was some last minute trolling, but I’m pretty convinced at this point.
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My only thing is the occasional app that has so many menus at the top that it would cause conflicts. I mean they can just made the OS code such that anything that would be under the notch’s area just goes to the other side but then you’re running into cramping the system tray icons.
But we’ll see. Maybe that’s enough of an edge case that it won’t be an issue.
Really curious what it does for full screen games. Probably just doesn’t let full screen games use those 74 pixels unless asked for with the right system call.-
That already happens with applications that have a lot of menu items and people who have a lot of items in the system tray side. Maybe they'll introduce some collapsing or scrolling or "more" overflow stuff which they don't have right now anyway. Right now if you overrun it you're just fucked.
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Yeah it seems like an odd call that with Big Sur they added so much padding around the system tray icons, and now that space os potentially limited. That padding still looks weird to me.
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It would suck for apps in full screen as the menu bar would be partially obscured by the notch
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Here we go mofos!
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Lol Zane!
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lol, Doja Cat shout out
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TWO names!
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Yeah, no one's going to be gaming on this shit and those graphs are probably not gaming related. Surely they're hand picked productivity benchmarks but they were pretty spot-on with the original M1 claims they made.
Seems like pretty much no matter what, these things are going to scream
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Such a bummer that VMWare won't support these CPUs for virtualization with Workstation. Also, no ability to upgrade the ram. 32 gigs is great for a laptop if you aren't doing virtualization. But I'd want 64 if I was going to do some crazy stuff with VMs.
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ports BABY
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MagSafe OR USB, now that's a miracle.
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Adding ports?! No more touch bar?! WTF IS HAPPENING?!?!?!
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Not even a single USB seems dumb :(
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Thunderbolt = USB-C
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THEY LISTENED!! Instead of telling us what we want.
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We've gone from the worst timeline to the best timeline.
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They giveth and taketh away. Now the laptop has the fucking notch. How is it that my Dell XPS has thinner bezels and no notch but the $4k Apple laptop does?
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I like that the top bar sinks into it. I just think if I was gaming I would NEVER want to fill the screen up to that notch.
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120hz
mini LED
magsafe
32gb or 64 gb
no touchbar
additional ports
https://media1.giphy.com/media/i4jTE9ZNFQQ1D7RbxK/giphy.gif?cid=790b761196f47f605d5ce98a40cbe8c97e7c72248c1e8daf&rid=giphy.gif&ct=g
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I wonder if the 120Hz display will be optional to reduce costs at the low end.
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OK so if you max out storage it comes to $6,099 but a maxed out 16" with 1TB is $3899 which is about what I spent on my maxed out MBP with 1TB space in 2014, so... I guess that's competitively priced.
Mostly I was seeing their "liquid crystal xdr display" or whatever they put in the monitor that's $5,000 with no stand and I figured uh oh this is going to be painful, isn't it?
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And before you say that you "have to" get the new macbook to be a pro, remember that a few months ago people were saying that the MacBook Air M1is "perfectly fine" for extreme intensive computations and pro compiling and web dev workflows. And you can find people saying it's fine for music production, movie editing, pro res, etc.
It's super funny how modern day computation is not fact based but marketing based.
The m1 is still fast.
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It's irrelevant because the difference in pricing is so low while the order is permanent, there will be no upgrading once you buy it.
Go with lower end or the upper end max it out. Exactly what people have recommended for all macs since they went to all in one, nonupgradeable parts.
It's like buying an i5 in Intel world. Either go with the i9 or the lower end model...-
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It was for me, that's for sure.
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They still have the M1 MacBook Air for the $1000 price point and the $999 MBA is a fucking beast. It's what I use daily right now and it's mostly fine for me. I'm really only upgrading for more RAM while doing development stuff.
For the vast majority of users, the base level MacBook Air is more computer than they need. And the battery life is amazing.
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he's outstanding in his field
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pretty sure all of their laptops have had feet
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They are noticeably strange looking.
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But not Airpod Pro...buyer beware. The third gens don't have noise cancelling!
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Looks like they just turned the Pros into the regular SKU.
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Apple Store is updated: high end 16 inch is $3500
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This is why they have the Air and 13" still available.
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In for the 14" base model. It will be the first mac I've ever owned.
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Tried the site first and couldn't get in. Switched to the apple store app on my phone and had no issues.
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It's interesting to me that the newest Apple designs are really falling back to some of their best selling products. The latest iPhones all take strong ques from the design language of the 4. Now these new laptops are pulling from the OG unibody from 2008.
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Yeah. They aren't outright admitting that eliminating the physical function keys and ports were a mistake, but clearly they were based on the new designs.
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Nah, won't be gaming on it. Don't need the extra GPU. Really I just want more RAM and a little bit extra CPU will be a nice step up from the M1/8GB MBA I have right now.
Honestly, if my MBA had 16GB of RAM I *probably* wouldn't be getting this.
Promotion HDR is really nice, but the M1 MBA is a fucking powerhouse in itself.
I'm really only upgrading because I got the MBA as a work anniversary gift. I'll give it to my wife to replace the old ass Surface Pro 4 she's been using.
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Haha, yeah. 32GB seems to be the sweet spot for me for the foreseeable future for me but I couldn't convince myself to pay the extra $400 to make that happen. Hopefully by the time 16GB becomes a problem, there'll still be trade-in value for it and I'll just apply that $400 plus interest to an upgrade, heh.
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I’m planning to leave windows 10 running in the background 24/7, give parallels 32gb ram and let it do its thing.
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I'm planning to use it to work with PowerBi, primarily. I'm assuming that will work on the arm version.... I guess I should check
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I would be ok with that, presumably it would be about as performant as it was on my 2019 MBP at my last job, and that wasn't too bad.
I need to figure out if I want the 14" or 16", the hardware is identical with both, right? Only the screen is different?-
Oh damn just noticed the Max is only with the 16", nevermind!
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Ooooh, nice!
Back to square one, hah. I don't really want a massive screen, so the 14" is more tempting. If all else is equal, I'll probably go that route.
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Apple should adopt Disney's release model by taking popular features away from their lineup for 4-5 years then bring them back in a new format.
The touch bar has been added to the Apple vault so that MagSafe can make a return. We'll see the reinvented touch bar come back in 2025 when they run out of ideas.
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I use the Touch Bar to accidentally mute meetings while trying to erase something in my notes and the miss something important.
I haven’t found any other uses.
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And in case anyone is interested I got a signed and notarized build of QUAKE II for Intel/M1 here
https://www.shacknews.com/chatty?id=40914000#item_40914000
So that's now all three Quakes I've done.
Also I'm secretly kinda glad they didn't announce new Mac minis, I still think the one I bought would be the right one to have but at least now I'm not wondering if I should have waited a month. -
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Just dropped over 5k on two laptops. Fuck these are pricey. Fuck me these look unfuckingbelievably amazing. Parting (with my money) is such sweet sorrow.
Upgrading wife's 2013 MBP to a base 14" and upgrading my 2017 MBP to a 14" low end Max with 32Gb ram and 512 ssd.
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Man, I told my IT guy months ago I was waiting for these to upgrade. And he ends up being out of office today haha. Not getting one until like 2022 at this rate.
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I'm going as fast as I can!
https://www.shacknews.com/chatty?id=40850295#item_40850295
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Seriously though, it has x86 emulation so anything that runs on a 64-bit Intel Mac should work on an M1* Mac. The hurdles are that a whole bunch of games got cut off in the 32-bitpocalypse and Macs were underpowered 3D wise for a bit but Apple Silicon should help that. So we'll see.-
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Yeah I'm curious what effect that has long term.
OpenGL is still in macOS, even Monterey, just not getting implemented past OpenGL 4.1.
I really thought their deprecation of OpenGL was in preparation for it to be removed from the OS once they switched to ARM but no, it's still there. One rumor I've read said they've wound up keeping it around because a number of things use WebGL and essentially still require it but who knows. Right now it's implemented as a driver/layer on top of Metal.
Developers are used to having to implement various graphics APIs for the different vendors (Sony, Nintendo, etc.) but those are platforms where games actually sell. We may be a weird chicken and egg pattern with Apple but since Metal is the same on iOS/iPadOS/tvOS/macOS (as I follow it) and developers are seeing their mobile offerings as valid gaming platforms (with some iPads even having the same M1 as the Mac) it won't be so much a matter of technology as it is just market forces.
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It only supports an old version of OpenGL, doesn't have Vulkan natively but needs an additional layer that translates it to their native api and apple hates games and people who play them unless they use their phones. All that wasn't even the worst thing about it last time I tried, it's the baked in godawful mouse acceleration which persisted despite various software hacks supposed to fix it. I have no idea if they do raw/1:1 input now. Some emulation works apparently. Devs like the m1 but nobody is going out of their way to support shit on osx.
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The first Mac I bought in 2009 with Snow Leopard (10.6) the mouse acceleration made me literally nauseous. It was like the one thing I wasn't prepared for. I'd used Linux and it was like using Windows with different stuff on the screen. I went so far as to install weird software to try and fix it.
I haven't noticed mouse acceleration in years and I don't know if that's because it's gone or just less bad now or if I've just become immune to noticing it.
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Preliminary Geekbench scores are putting the M1 Max CPU performance on par with the 12 core Xeon W-3235: https://www.macrumors.com/2021/10/18/first-m1-max-geekbench-score-surfaces/
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I ended up going with a 16 Max with an early November ETA. I can always cancel/return and swap it for something else after I see benchmarks. A big part of me wants to go with the 14" since I dislike carrying around a 15"-16". Problem is that the price difference with equivalent internal specs is only $200 and I much prefer actually using a 15"-16" once I'm all set up.
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Man that Max was tempting, but then you gotta go to 32gb of Ram too. I would have loved to do it, but I just couldn’t justify it. It’s already way more computer than I need.
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Aloomaster would never allow this to happen.
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Funny story w Jobs and function keys: https://trev.com/2016/11/fing-keys/
He did manage to kill them with NeXT workstations, only to have them forced back on him when he returned to Apple.
http://xahlee.info/kbd/i/NeXT_Computer_keyboard_66682.jpg
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What kind of 120hz display doesn't have USB-C?
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LG OLEDs, the best 120hz displays on the market
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Look a little bit harder and the 14” specs for battery life start to suck a bit more https://www.apple.com/macbook-pro-14-and-16/specs/
Up to 17 hours Apple TV app movie playback
Up to 11 hours wireless web
So if you’re using it to watch 24fps pre-downloaded video on low screen brightness without HDR you might get 17 hours out of it. For regular use, a lot less than that.
Contrast that with the M1 MBA which is 18/15 or the M1 MBP which is 21/17 and those extra cores/GPU and FPS are really gonna hit hard on the battery. -
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That’s never going to happen for lots of reasons one of them being that a huge reason it’s so good is because the hardware and the OS are so tightly coupled. If they opened it up and other people put shitty software on top of it, it would tarnish the hardware brand. They won’t let that happen.
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Would also be a weird flex against Microsoft and Sony.
Be a hell of a way to get people to use Metal instead of Vulkan or OpenGL though.
Be even better if they did like they did with the Pippin and there were all these weird signs you were using macOS under the hood like the cursor would show up and turn into a beach ball sometimes.
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If you wait a few more days you won't get it until 2022
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You don't see the options to add the Max processor versions to the 14?
https://imgur.com/a/OmkEx76
I'm in the US but I think I was browsing / working in the Canadian store and the Max processor options were at the bottom of the list just like the 16inch version.
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