PlayStation 4 to launch for $399
PlayStation 4 will launch for $399, $100 cheaper than Xbox One.
PlayStation 4 will launch for $399, $100 cheaper than Xbox One.
Jesse Divnich, VP of insights at EEDAR, believes the price disparity between Xbox One and PlayStation 4 is due to the mandatory bundling of Microsoft's next-gen Kinect camera with Xbox One. Although PS4 supports PlayStation Eye, it does not appear to be mandatory with PS4, which can cut down on costs. "Sony was able to come in $100 under the Xbox One, which should be considered an advantage for the PlayStation 4 going into the holiday season. We believe the Kinect 2 bundling is the likely the driving force in the pricing disparity between the PlayStation 4 and Xbox One," Divnich said.
Divnich is optimistic about Microsoft's chances, even with the $100 disparity. "It shouldn't come as criticism to Xbox, as the Kinect 2 is firm part of Microsoft's and Xbox's long-term strategy," he said.
Michael Pachter, research analyst at Wedbush Securities, was less kind on Xbox One, calling Sony's undercut price "genius." On Twitter, he pointed out that "Microsoft messed up on this one, Sony seized the opportunity. Talked about consumer trust. Well played."
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Andrew Yoon posted a new article, PlayStation 4 to launch for $399.
PlayStation 4 will launch for $399, $100 cheaper than Xbox One.-
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i am in the minority I guess. The features that are other than games on the Xbox might sway me to their side even if it is more expensive. Kinect looks impressive, always liked the voice stuff with it. And the snap feature would be very usefull for me. I could watch a baseball game on mlb.tv and play a game at the same time. That is a big plus for me. Also having a great skype experience is a really big deal for me too. Basically, my decision seems to be based on a lot of features that are outside of gaming. Most of the games are going to be on both platforms so I know each system will have great games. If netflix etc.. isn't behind their xbox live paywall then I will probably go with the xbox.
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I know the Xbox One is the in thing to despise right now, but the new Kinect is actually really fucking impressive.
I'm heavily betting most of the people saying "Good!" in this thread never bothered to watch any of the demo vids, because after all, they're not interested. But if they did, they would understand what a huge leap this is compared to the existing Kinect. I was not aware this kind of technology existed in 2013 at consumer level prices.
I have no plans to buy an Xbox One, or a PS4 for that matter, and only vague intentions to pick up a Wii U one of these days. But I was genuinely impressed. Then again, I like my Wii so the whole concept of motion control doesn't send me into a rage like some gamers. I'm more open to this kind of thing.
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Obviously people are going a little crazy over how Kinect's camera will somehow always be watching you.
What it will do, however, is always be listening for an "Xbox on" command through the mic, which is an option that can be turned off. Also, there's an option to completely turn the Kinect off when the system is in it's powered down state, which I think may as also be an option?
It's not really that bad. They're merely optional conveniences that unfortunately wrapped itself around NSA fluff.
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$399 and the Wii U is at $350... and the Wii U has sold horribly... they better do something, like tomorrow and saturate the market with Wii U's because they are about to go down like a sinking ship. Sony has also destroyed any chance of the X-Box One succeeding. Renters will choose this system. People who like privacy will choose this system. The games seem to be with This One. I am disappointed that there is no mention of an Xperia Play 2 as my original just broke yesterday. I'll see if the insurance can replace the phone with another Xperia Play because I've looked at the selection on Verizon and all I can say is that I want an Xperia Play. Xperia Play could've been a true gem in Sony's pocket had they actually supported it.
Now, what's up with Valve? Are steam boxes with bow ties going to show up on the floor at E3? Any mention of the elusive Half Life 3? We've waited a half life for it. They've said no showing at E3. Nintendo's tomorrow. C'mon Gabe! Give us a bone to chew on!
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The rumor is that the $299 "Basic" Wii U is being discontinued as we speak, and I would be flabbergasted if the currently-$349 "Deluxe" model is not rapidly moved to the lower price point to replace it.
So, assuming that's true, there will be a $100 cushion between the best Wii U and the cheapest PS4, and I expect Nintendo will be keen to maintain that cushion, if they have any sense.
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You can preorder right now.
http://www.xboxdone.xom
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Sony to Microsoft: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=mAUY1J8KizU
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You're going to need to start posting sources in your attempts to do videogame financial analysis since the only thing I can find for this is a) rumor and b) the BOM for the entire console including controller. The 3DS BOM is actually around $100 after a teardown of the real thing, and you're telling me a controller with no internal processing power is nearly double that? A Kinect teardown claimed around $60 BOM initially, and you're telling me a Wii U controller is 3x that? The Vita has a BOM of $160 and you're telling me the Wii U controller with a massively worse display and missing a home console's level of processing power costs more? Come on man, think.
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500 gb (subject to change), also includes a headset and HDMI cable
http://www.scei.co.jp/corporate/release/pdf/130611a_e.pdf -
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Which, if this generation is any guide, means Sony wins at that, too.
MS really fucked this up something awful. I do believe they could have gotten away with going with slightly weaker internals in favor of the new Kinect, if it wasn't for the always-on and used game situation. And a better reveal.
But all of it piled on top of each other, PLUS a $100 price gap? They're totally fucked. It actually scares me how hard MS is faceplanting in every possible arena, because they still control the operating system that powers PC gaming.-
I preferred the exclusives on the 360 actually. I have no interest in the kinds of exclusives the Playstation has had in the past. I'm not saying it's impossible for that to change with this generation, but I doubt it's going to happen.
Most of the whining that has gone on about the Xbox One seems pretty silly to me. The only thing I have a major issue with is killing off rentals. If I want a truly spectacular gaming experience, neither console is a good choice anyway - PC is a far better gaming platform than any console.
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U get what u pay for, a substandard product with no games for ps4 or pay a little extra for robust online services, UI, seamless tv/chat/social/twitch, games of AAA caliber only on 360 (Forza, halo, quantum break, ryse, sunset overdrive, killer instinct, d4, crimson dragon, dead rising 3, and of course the game of the show titanfall all these are exclusive to the best leading system in the world all available for just 100 dollars more than a lesser product of ps4. Cheaper this time actually fits the bill of a lesser product. Day one buy for me is Xbox one!!!
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I primarily use the 360. The UI has turned to garbage. The exclusive games are mainly brain dead shooters. I don't feel like I will miss out on much. Sony usually has riskier and more interesting exclusives. It's more powerful and they are talking to all the indie devs out there.
I hope MS learns a lesson and betters themselves the way Sony is. I want healthy competition. But right now if I end up with an Xbox One it will be my secondary that gets turned on once a year to play an interesting exclusive. -
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I couldn't find him reading the "crapbox" letter but there's this gem that he read doing that voice:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZV8JQslosas-
Oh here it is!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1dNlbdJd8JA
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Courting indies like crazy, seemingly more powerful (GDDR5, GPU etc.), smaller and less VCR-like, no pre-owned restrictions or online activation bullshit (!), no Kinect requirement, PS2/3 games via cloud, 80 quid cheaper. I think I'll be voting with my wallet this generation. (Well, until the Xbone gets a few price cuts *cough*)
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Not only more powerful but it seems like Xbone is rumored to be having issues and they will be down clocking it at release. https://www.google.ca/search?q=eSRAM+yield&oq=eSRAM+yield&aqs=chrome.0.57&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
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Official PlayStation Used Game Instructional Video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3_rRzx_1c10
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Leads to developers feeling safe in implementing kinect functionality or making kinect-oriented games, since they know that the install base is 100% of XBone owners, whereas add-on peripherals historically have abysmal attach rates and so no games get made for them making them doomed from the start. How many games supported the Power Glove well? How many games came out for the 32X or Sega CD?
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That's true, but the original Kinect was in the same boat. The *only* game that is totally amazing with it and almost made me buy the damn thing was Harmonix's Dance Central. That is the only game that made people want to go out and buy one. If there were more games that was excellent and memorable, then the add-on would sell.
Another add-on that sold well was the GT Wheel for PS2. Lots of the driving fans went out and bought one just because of Gran Tourismo. It was just nuts seeing so many people buy them. -
One thing i'm curious about is sony's eye toy. They've said very little about how it works functionally. If it was very similar to kinect they could be an advantage. For example, if a developer is making a game with kinect functionality, if the eye toy is pretty similar it might not be a great deal of work to include that functionality on the ps4 version even though there is a far smaller install base on the sony system.
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Most of us don't really know what Kinect version 2 will be like yet. If optional stuff in games I'm all for it - who knows, it might actually turn out some cool ideas in games this time around... (there were some games that was 'ok' with it afaik)
One thing we can be sure of though - it'll be better than the first 'prototype'.
As for Kinect being '"mandatory" - better having it this way, making sure the developer knows that every user has one installed. The problem being 3rd party titles for both consoles - where there is probably no reason to spend time on implementing a use for it.
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