EA explains Origin exclusives
EA has a long way to go before it can convince the masses to switch to its new digital storefront, Origin. It plans on winning gamers through exclusives, like Star Wars: The Old Republic.
While today's release of free Shift 2 DLC on Origin may have won some gamers over, EA has a long way to go before it can convince the masses to switch to its new digital storefront--especially given the lofty goals the publisher has placed on the service. EA's Frank Gibeau told GI.biz that "we're the worldwide leader in packaged goods publishing, we'd like to be the worldwide leader in digital publishing."
But how will EA manage to oust rivals in an area where Steam is such a clear leader? Through exclusives, of course. Gibeau is careful to point out that it's not EA's goal to alienate its partners. "We are going to continue to be great partners for our retail channel partners and as they evolve their business models to account for digital." However, the only way to properly expand Origin is to restrict content from other channels. "But at the same time you talk about platform exclusives like Halo or Uncharted, EA's going to have some of our own platform exclusives."
One of the big exclusives for the platform is the upcoming MMO, Star Wars: The Old Republic. Gibeau is not shy to admit that this is a game meant to attract people to the platform, not the other way around. "In the case of Star Wars we're trying to build an audience for Origin." But why Star Wars? "For a lot of reasons it made sense for an MMO, which is a highly complex deployment... it's also an opportunity for us to better manage the downloads and how we bring people over from the beta and that sort of thing." Unfortunately, Gibeau didn't go into detail on how Origin would make this process better for users.
EA is taking a gamble by restricting the audience of The Old Republic to those that opt to participate in its platform. However, at least some can take comfort in knowing that EA may not keep the gates closed off for long. "I think long-term you'll see we believe in reach so we will have other digital retailers for out products because we want to reach as many audiences as possible."
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EA has a long way to go before it can convince the masses to switch to its new digital storefront, Origin. It plans on winning gamers through exclusives, like Star Wars: The Old Republic.-
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This hate is borderline hilarious. EA has every moral right to create and make use of it's own digital storefront. Don't like it? Don't buy it.
Between reading this and the crying over Resident Evil 3DS I'm puzzled as to why gamers feel they have some sort of inalienable right to play these games - and in some cases like this one - some sort of right to dictate their business models.-
"Inalienable right?"
If nobody ever protests, nothing changes. You're ok with this crap with Capcom and with the direction that DD is going? Fine, enjoy it! I'm not telling you not to.
But some of us are annoyed and/or upset about them, and are making our opinions known. If nobody had complained about the Sony rootkit fiasco, every DVD and Bluray would still be installing them invisibly.
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I'm just going by what happened here for Call of Duty. Everyone in here bitching until launch day when most bought it anyway. For the record, I didn't.
BF3 is one of my favorite games with friends, if I have to support it on Origin I may. I don't have a problem with EA setting up competition for Steam, I just don't really want to be part of it. The minute they cut dedicated servers or remove their (shitty) server browser for matchmaking... i'm out.
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fuck... and all this time i thought people actually liked Dead Space, Dragon Age, Battlefield, Crysis, Mass Effect, Need for Speed, Medal of Honor, Madden, FIFA, NHL, The Sims, Tiger Woods, Skate, System Shock 2, and pretty much 90% of the games listed here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Electronic_Arts_games-
And how many of those games were in the works before EA bought out their company, and what effects did EA's overseers have on said companies afterwords?
Hint: Dragon Age Origins compared to Dragon Age 2. Mass Effect compared to Mass Effect 2. Crysis, compared to Crysis 2.
All EA does is dumb down games to try and give them a "mass" appeal that utterly ruins everything that made the games cool in the first place.
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Auto-updates can go in both directions, though. Do you download a new SP when Microsoft releases one for windows? Cause I know a lot of people that don't because they want to see if it opens up new bugs or not. But I do understand your point about it. It'd be nice to be a toggle feature. And in the future, it could be.
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I was reluctant to support Steam at its inception also, but it has established itself as the market, nevermind the market leader. Anything EA does now will only hurt that ecosystem. This is one more inch down the slippery slope of every publisher wanting/demanding its own tsr and always-on DRM.
EA's actions over the past years has destroyed any scrap of respect or trust I had for them, and I will assume the worst in this service unless an avalanche of evidence says otherwise. And even should that happen, I will still be unlikely to install it for the first paragraph's reason. I do not want to have a dozen storefronts running just to play whatever game might come along that looks good. Luckily, I'm saved in this event because the new Star Wars game does not look good.-
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I don't care if they do. But I care about them hurting the ecosystem. Because this will divide the market in the same way as certain games being exclusive to certain retail outlets. Bad juju if you happen to live apart from one.
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Really? Always-On? You sure about that?
http://mygaming.co.za/news/pc/12431-You-wont-need-Origin-play-The-Old-Republic.html
http://www.geeky-gadgets.com/star-wars-old-republic-wont-be-origin-exclusive-06-16-2011/
If you'd like a more official source, I just asked a tech on EA's Live Assistance:
" Ashton W.: Hi, my name is Ashton W.. How may I help you?
Me: I just have a quick question about the Origin service
Me: Does Origin need to be running in order to play games bought through the service?
Ashton W.: No
Me: Excellent. Thank you very much."
Can't take my word for it? Fair enough, I don't feel like screencapping the conversation. http://help.origin.com/app/chat/livechat_landing so feel free to ask for yourself.
That aside, Origin doesn't just act as a digital storefront. As those who bothered to check may have realized, it replaces the EA Store, which means they also sell boxed versions of their console and PC games.
And on the topic of DRM, how does it make sense for everyone to hate Ubisoft's Always-On DRM, SecuROM, and all the other cloud-based and disc-based DRM schemes and then have nothing wrong with the way Steam works? -
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Valve made Steam because of piracy. Because updating games was too hard. Because the PC platform was dying if it didn't find a new way of getting products to the consumer. Because games needed to be a better service than they had been up until its inception.
EA made Origin because they didn't like paying Valve 5 cents in the dollar for the privilege of actually selling something to PC owners again.
You want my personal opinion on why EA can fuck themselves though? Valve made Steam so I can play games easier, and I pay them for their good work. EA just want to control things and can not be trusted by anyone who loves gaming. -
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I can play this internet game of not contributing anything and just demand others to supply me with information and opinions. Alright Korban, how about you prove why Origin is a good thing. Keep in mind EA Origin is not competing with Steam. To be a competitor they would also have to sell other publishers and independent non EA or EA partner games.
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I can only give my personal view. For me the Digital Download market is one that demands trust.
When Steam came out, it was very simple... Buy the game, download it however many times you like, for as long as the service is around. They've added more features as time goes on, but it has all been to the benefit of the user.
When EA Downloader launched, now called "Origin", they wanted an extra fee to download the game or DLC you purchased beyond the first few months... and I believe there was a limit on how many times you could download it as well. While this seems to have been removed (correct me if it's still there) the very fact of it being there in the first place is an indicator to me that they care more about milking profits rather than providing a good service.
So in essence, my trust with EA's digital storefronts was lost and since there are better and more trustworthy competitors, I will be spending my money with them.
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There is no burden. I don't need to prove to anyone why Origins potential is a bad thing in the same way he apparently doesn't need to prove the opposite.
We've had this conversation multiple times, and it's been talked about elsewhere quite a bit. His original post and his responses serves one purpose which is to troll. -
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Disliking the Origin store (and stating our dislike) is not trolling. That the Shack moderation may or may not consider it so doesn't change it.
For it to be trolling, the troll would have to be looking for some sort of reaction, preferably by stating a belief that they don't actually hold.
"I don't like liver." This is not trolling. I don't like liver. I don't have to try to explain why, I still don't like it.
If someone starts a thread about how awesome liver is and I come in with, "Liver sucks."
This is threadshitting, not trolling.
And as this entire thread is merely here for comments on the article, not a statement of Origin's awesomeness, disliking it is neither threadshitting nor trolling.
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It's kinda like when MS announced the XBOX. We already had two big consoles with exclusive titles and while sure, there were games on the XBOX that people got excited about, mostly it was a lot of "Why the fuck are they doing this, we don't need another console".
Yeah, Steam is no different...but we already have it, and a lot of us simply do not want another gaming platform on our PCs. One is enough, and I know I'd much prefer that all games were on Steam. -
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From a user's perspective, it seems rather undesirable to have to deal with a bunch of separate gateways to play your games, update your games, purchase your games, build up friends, message your friends, play with your friends...
It's the same reason nobody wants to use Myspace, Facebook and [insert new social network here] at the same time. It sucks. A single one usually comes out on top because you want to be able to interact with all of your friends in a single place, not have them segmented and scattered between services.-
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It would be nice for these services to adopt a standardized public API for developers to develop against, which would at least allow consumers to choose which service they want to play their game on. Already have all your friends on Steam? Then play the game on Steam. All your buddies on Origin? Then play on Origin. Let the consumers decide which match making and social service is superior.
Unfortunately, it looks like a pipe dream. The publisher's are all too willing to partition the market to try and grab their share, holding consumers back from experiencing the superior experience offered by consolidated services.
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Personally I'm not going to support origin because i don't want to have to buy all my games from major publishers on their own individual download stores. I don't care for the steam monopoly however and i don't understand the attitude here for it. d2d and impulse are good alternatives, well at least impulse used to be. We'll have to see how things change now that gamestop bought them.
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Additionally, I think the Kindle situation shows the problems that arise when a publisher has the sole and exclusive ability to set the price for its products.
Badly scanned and horribly proofread digital books for as much as twice the price of a physical book's MSRP, possibly triple the price for which you can actually buy it. -
I was going to argue against Origin because of the one year download limit but it seems like Ea has gotten rid of that policy. Good for them. http://www.giantbomb.com/profile/insanejedi/give-origin-a-chance/30-83237/
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It's not such a bad thing. I prefer to have all my content in one place. I don't want to go to a dozen different services to install/play my games. This talk of "exclusive" is worrisome. I'd rather pay a little premium to have my games on Steam than to have to use another client(s). It's a habit now.
Hopefully, this doesn't start another bunch of publishers/studios to do the same thing and create their own service as well with exclusives. -
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I don't think it's bad in and of itself, but I'm not going to use it. Primarily because I truly believe that Steam will be here 10 years from now, and Origin won't be. That means that I believe that I'm buying into an ecosystem (Steam) with longevity as a supposed feature. I may very well be wrong, but since Origin also doesn't offer me any good reason to switch (IE, all the features of Steam I know and love), I don't know why I'd choose to use them.
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I think what really worries me is that if it's actually successful others will follow suit and that's ultimately bad for me as a consumer. I don't want 50 different digital distribution platforms. I'm not saying hey.. everyone needs to get behind Steam, I just think having exclusives from a third-party publisher (i.e., will only be from that third-party publisher) on their own platform is bad for me. Bad for them too. They're a third-party publisher attempting to create an exclusive platform. That makes zero sense.
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I'm not thrilled about having another digital download service and credit information sitting in another store seemingly needlessly.
Dunno if they changed it or not but their past policies of only having one year to download your game and two years of account inactivity and your account gets closed, but if they do carry over why would I even want to use their service when Steam's around?
I'll add a touch of the illogical for good measure. I like Steam, I'm weary of EA and their shakey track record.
Steam could very well have similar legal loops in their ToS, but I've had minimal issues over the years with it and I don't see them closing up and running to the hills anytime soon. -
I'm not a fan simply because its another account with another service that I have to keep track of.
Kind of like Games for Windows Live or Rockstar Social Club. Its not inherently bad.. it just annoys me.
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here's my beef, from Origin's own FAQ:
"Q: Will my game download ever expire?
A: Digital download rights remain available for at least one year after purchase. Origin typically doesn’t retire games, and we’ve only retired around 10 of the 150 games we sell, and these have generally been because of the expiration of licensing rights."
if they took this out and made it like every other digital distribution service, i would have no problem buying stuff from them.-
Guaranteeing downloads for at least one year is more of a guarantee than I can find for any other DD service. Games being retired due to licensing expiration isn't unique to Origin. Look at Turtles in Time on XBLA (or a few other games getting pulled there as well) or this list someone's compiled: http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1402741
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I take most FAQs as a gain of salt anyways, but everyone else has better sounding services and some kind of track record behind them.
Was smart of EA to choose an MMO to push Origin though. Most MMO's have some sort of interface wrapper to deliver the content. I'm fine with Origin for that purpose, but I'm getting tired of registering each new game on a different service.
On a funny side note i think you technically violate steams usage terms by using their screenshot upload tool.
http://www.steampowered.com/v/index.php?area=online_conduct
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My problem with it is that it serves no purpose but for EA to make more money. It has literally no benefits over the existing digital download services available including Direct 2 Drive, Impulse, and GreenManGaming. Paying more money for worse service so that EA can get a bigger cut of the pie (i.e.: probably not even helping out the developers) is not something I agree with.
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The only concern I have with Origin is if EA decides it's not worth it in two years time and I loose access to downloading my games. It could happen with Valve too, but EA has a history of stuff like that, where Valve doesn't.
People need to think about what they're saying with regards to anger at Origin Exclusives. I'm as pro-steam as can be, but its not much differen't. All Valve games are Steam exclusives and have to be played through Steam.
In fact, as far as I can tell, Origin games can still be added as non-steam shortcuts in Steam, because they just install like a normal disk copy would. -
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I just think it's a dumb move on their part. WoW is such a juggernaut and many MMO's have come and gone while WoW sits cozy on its throne. You would think they would want to do everything possible to get people to play their new MMO. Star Wars license or not.. they are going to need all the marketing, reviews and luck they can get to be successful... this seems like the exact opposite type of thing they should do. Somebody like Blizzard could get away with something like this with a title like Diablo... something where the game is 100% guaranteed to to sell a shit ton. This game looks good... but that good? I don't know...
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Exactly this. Steam provides me so much more value than a simple storefront.
Origin has what...friends lists? Fuck that, I've already invested a lot of time adding all my Steam friends and integrating my Steam Community groups into my PC gaming ecosystem.
Fuck having to go about re-adding all that (with far less community integration to boot) just for an exclusive storefront.
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My main issue is the lack of autopatching. I'd be ok launching BF3 through Steam if it was an Origin exclusive. I'd still get the Steam overlay, friend list, screenshots, etc etc. I do the same thing with my Starcraft 2, BNet handles patching and I'm good to go with all the other Steam features.
I do not want to go back to manually patching my games, screw that. If Origin is here to stay, then hopefully that features makes its way in. -
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Those of you saying Steam is a monopoly and Origin is simply competition have it backwards. First of all, steam is not a monopoly. There are plenty of other PC digital distribution services (GOG, gamersgate, direct2drive, etc). EA on the other hand seem to want to make Origin the only option for downloading EA games, making a kind of digital distribution monopoly on their own games. While they can certainly do that, it doesn't really benifit people buying their games since they now have less digital distribution options, not more. That coupled with EA's relatively poor track record with things like this make me see Origin as a money/control grab by EA and not some healthy competition for the digital distribution market.
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In the entire history of Steam we have never had a single case of them acting negatively to any other publisher or developer. In fact, every case we've had personally spelled out here (like Derek Smart's excellent post) has been praising Valve for the Steam service and what it offers to developers.
See this post: http://www.shacknews.com/article/60781/gearboxs-pitchford-says-valve-is?id=21097820#itemanchor_21097820
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Those news sites were reporting off of rumor not fact, and most corrected themselves. Alice was not up in any form until a few days after it's release. EA didn't have to do anything like you mention because Alices contract was penned months in advance. EA controls when their title is available for pre-order and purchase.
It's been their practice to hold on allowing new EA titles from either being able to pre-order or purchase until the last possible minute to allow for promotions or other things they have elsewhere. They have also held titles until almost a week after it's release before even showing up on steam. They've done both those things themselves, not by Valves hand, with NFS and Dragon Age 2 and Alice.
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You and I both know collectively we have insufficient evidence to determine whether any contractual agreements Valve would make with other digital distribution services would even comprise a sensible business decision. They might not put their products on other digital distribution services because it would be frivolous to do so when they own the digital distribution market.
They are the de facto market leader in PC DD, so they don't need to branch out to other services.
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Right, we don't know, but it doesn't seem unreasonable to infer that as a possibility. And I never suggested they need or should put HL2 on another service (including Origin), there's little reason to financially and keeping their games largely only on Steam accomplishes the same thing EA is hoping to do with BF3/TOR and Origin. it was merely a counterpoint to the philosophical opposition to the idea that an EA title would only be available on their own digital platform.
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Now that you mention EA Partners, I think a better analogy would be made by Valve taking their boxed retail copies off of EA Partners and setting up an equivalent retail distribution channel from scratch (complete with all the infrastructure that it entails), and then taking everything out of those retail boxes except a piece of notebook paper with a scribbled CD key on it. If you want to buy a Valve game retail, well they aren't with the perfectly competent EA Partners program anymore so you're kind of out of luck.
EA already has a really good distribution system when partnered with Steam, but they're trying to set up some kind of underdog competitor in Origin which, ultimately, will have fewer features and be behind the innovative capability of Steam and Valve.
I gotta go to bed since I'm working a 10-hour day tomorrow and I need sleep, but the TL;DR of my whole argument is that, as a consumer with a pretty heavy investment in PC gaming, I want to see lots of money being made and lots of PC-consumer-friendly developments. If EA thinks it can make more money by moving away from Steam and starting their own service, well that's their decision, but I can't see how this development is ultimately good for the PC consumer.-
Don't get me wrong, I'm not arguing this is good for us (assuming of course a Steam monopoly doesn't end up biting us somehow), merely that it makes perfect sense for EA and that it really isn't much different from what Valve did with their own content and services. Is it a perfectly analogous one? No, but it really doesn't seem that much different to me and it seems like a smart move for EA. If it fails then they go back to Steam, if it succeeds they'll have realized a lot of extra profit.
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That isn't true. Direct 2 drive doesn't, impulse doesn't. I don't know of the digital delivery store that sells valve games unless they send you a box. In fact, if you want to buy Portal 2 for the pc other than through steam, you have to buy the retail version either from a store or have it mailed to you.
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A lot of people forget because D2D and others eventually changed their policy, but originally they refused to sell steam integrated products. By the time they did start allowing that Steam had grown so large Valve just didn't care anymore when it came to their own titles. Although, I do wish they were available elsewhere as well.
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PS: If there was a significant advantage to selling games on other distribution platforms I'm sure Valve would do it.
EA on the other hand are just being the usual retards they've always been, instead of selling their games on Steam, which currently holds a HUUUUUGE advantage, while building their own system and slowly gaining customers, they've thrown themselves over a cliff hoping to find a parachute on the way down.
Basically they're going to lose a whole lot of money while waiting for customers to pile up, even if they eventually offset their losses, which would be a miracle in itself, they'll still never catch up to Steam which has several years of an advantage on them.
Unless Origin is better than Steam in every single way, no amount of exclusives is going to save it.
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If you are EA on whichever one makes you the most money. I am betting the model will be AAA titles Like Battlefield or Star Wars will be Origin only since it not being on Steam won't matter because people will buy it regardless. Then other games will be on Steam and other services a few days or a week after they debut on Origin.
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I'm curious if this release scheduling has caused issues with the previous titles EA tried, like NFS and Alice (both of which were delayed on Steam).
I wonder if EA lost sales because of that on the PC side. I -know- that NFS did not sell well since it had so few people playing it and their staggered patches allowed people to see the difference between the steam users and regular users.
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I never said they wouldn't try (that would be pretty stupid since they're doing it right now...this entire thread is about that if you hadn't noticed), and as a corporation goaded by shareholders, I think they should.
But I don't like it, I don't like what it foretells for DD fracturing, I don't trust them as a company to even try to have the customer's interests in mind, and I own't be supporting it. -
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You can order it off Origin if you want: http://store.origin.com/store/ea/en_US/pd/productID.81565900/sac.true
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Valve games aren't available elsewhere because it doesn't need to be. They have the best digital download platform around. They would not gain anything at all by offering their games elsewhere. Unless they moved away from the Steam required aspect (which would preclude the massive benefits they've been able to create because of the ease of pushing updates and patches out) it just would not make sense to offer their games on other services.
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http://www.gameranx.com/updates/id/2154/article/ea-s-origin-service-not-required-for-the-old-republic/
So like, this EA guy is just full of shit or? -
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It's not that bad. I won a copy of Crysis 2 from the Tech Report, and had to install Origin to download it and install. It works fine, is actually not bad looking. Had to register Alice: Madness Returns through it as well after buying it on Steam.
Neat thing is it saw all my Steam games, and any of them that were EA, were automatically added to my "Owned Games" list in Origin, so I can now download them from there if I wanted to as well. -
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Valve launched steam as he only way to get their games DD. They also forced you to install steam to play their games, even if you bought retail. EA is launching their store with only their games, but not requiring Origin if you buy retail. If origin adds other publishers, it would be fantastic for us because it would create more competition.
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It's the same thing. Valve did it back in 04 and people bitched because before Steam all online distribution systems were garbage. Same thing EA is coming out with one and historically EA's online offerings have been garbage.
The only one I can think of that didn't really create this big drama was Blizzard and battle.net which essentially does the same thing as Origin but is only for a single developers games. But because Blizzard had a history of being good in the online space and supporting it well people were just like oh ok.
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It's amazing how people have forgotten what a huge controversy Steam was back then. It was massively unpopular. People were sitting about for literally hours waiting to play Half-Life 2, while it downloaded and updated on their dial-up internet. I hated Steam when it launched, but I had no choice but to use it and neither did anyone else.
This fuss over Origin is a drop in a bucket compared to Steam and people are judging it, without ever having seen it. -
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Yeah, but Steam pioneered digital distribution in a non-stupid way back in 04, 05 and improved the system a lot. Props to them for listening to customers and adapting to the market. They deserve the market share.
Things changed a lot in the latest years and EA didn't seem to learn from Valve's mistakes. -
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Maybe I'm giving them too much credit, but I think if they understand that the community features are a large part of what makes Steam successful, that they would know they can't compete with steam on the community front. They have some basic friends list stuff in Origin, but I think it's mainly because they see the value of it as a marketing tool ("oh, soandso is playing game X, I should buy that").
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The list of important things that Origin needs to do (in this order):
1) No time limits on content accessibility
2) Auto-patching
3) Removal of restrictive activation limits
4) Abolish developer specific DLC platforms (Looking at you Bioware) and roll all DLC management into Origin
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Feature parity would at least make me consider moving over to Origin for some stuff. I maintain a small library in Impulse, and that client works great. I have almost 200 games on Steam, so I have a substantial Steam library, but there's room for something else if something else works well and improves my experience.
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Personally I don't think feature parity is good enough to attract users. I think EA knows this too which is why they're leveraging exclusivity. They can spend a bunch of time and money trying to catch up to a service that is years ahead of them in terms of features, development, market share, userbase, etc. and even then those features will be criticized because Steam did it first/better. Or they could just not deal with any of that stuff, put up a store that works for delivering product and use exclusivity to drive digital sales through it.
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Your library on Origin will never be as big as it is or can be on Steam or Impulse though, unless you start exclusively buying EA games. EA is making a walled off version of Steam. EA has not been known in the past to be PC friendly, either.
Mass Effect 1 came out on xbox first.
Dead Space 2 had to get community begging to get a PC release.
Dead Space 2 did not get DLC for PC, even though some of it was hard coded in the game.
FIFA is constantly using last-gen engines on the PC version.
Battlefield 1943 for pc was delayed, delayed, delayed, and then cancelled.
How many developers has EA gobbled up and then completely ruined?
How many suits does it take to run a company, always cutting development staff after games come out, and still lose money quarter after quarter?
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If it was broken no-one would have been able to play, it was overtaxed and poorly optimized, but not broken. In essence, HL2 was it's first major test, which by most judgments was a large speedbump.
Steam was also around long before HL2, in fact I remember distinctly when CS 1.6 moved over from WON to Steam. I don't know why you're trying to revise history here. -
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If origin does what battle.net does, i'm all for it.
- Can i download the .exe and then launch the game with un-obtrusive DRM?
- Can I re-download the game AS MANY TIMES as I want?
- Can I do it from the website, meaning there is no furhter software that needs installing? I really don't want to have 5 different online distribution channels installed on my computer
BTW, I'm not into origin, mostly because I dont buy EA games. I just hope they don't shoot themselves in the foot by doing something stupid -
the biggest problem i have with EA is they don't stick to anything. every couple years some new executive comes up with a new scheme. who knows if Origin will exist at all in 2 years? steam started similarly as the only place to get valve games but quickly exploded into a carrier for most every other publisher as well, and they keep games up to date with autopatching, provide community features like friends and chat and groups, and achievements and stuff for gamers who like that sort of thing.
Meanwhile, EA is offering none of that and as a publisher it is not in their interest to offer games from other publishers. they want to reinvent the wheel to grab all of that money for themselves, keep all of the user information for themselves to they can upsell you and/or sell it to 3rd party marketers, because everything is a revenue stream for them.
steam offers a lot of the same features that people love about XBOX Live but for PC users. why is it hard to understand why this is good? everybody sucks microsoft's dick about how great XBL is but Steam is somehow evil? -
You don't need Origin to run the game. Fact, at least as far as Bioware's community manager is concerned.
Origin is the ONLY place you'll be able to digitally download the game, at least for the first few months after release. You can still buy it in a store and install it without even touching Origin.
Patches, updates, etc, etc are all handled by the developer (Bioware) not the publisher.
http://www.gameranx.com/updates/id/2154/article/ea-s-origin-service-not-required-for-the-old-republic/