PSN restoration still 'uncertain,' yet full service expected by May 31
Sony said today it's still "uncertain" when the PlayStation Network will be back up, though full service is expected by the end of May.
[Update 1:00PM PST 5/9/2011]: Apparently, the wording in Sunday's Bloomberg news report (the basis of our original story) wasn't entirely accurate. According to Sony spokesman Patrick Seybold, Sony hasn't confirmed a relaunch date for the PlayStation Network, and the May 31 "deadline" in the Bloomberg article is incorrect (via VentureBeat). Gaming site GiantBomb is also reporting that they've since confirmed with Sony that no PSN relaunch deadline has been established.
[Original]: Sony said today that it's still "uncertain" when the PlayStation Network will be back up and running, following a hack that saw members' personal data stolen. Somewhat surprisingly, though, the company still expects to have the service fully back up and running by the end of May.
Speaking with Bloomberg today, Sony spokesperson Shigenori Yoshida said the company was still "uncertain" when the PlayStation Network and Qriocity would be back up. However, Yoshida said that Sony was confident that by May 31, the new security measures would be in place and both services would be fully restored. One would hope that certain elements will be resorted before then, though.
Sony's past estimates for restoration have been a touch too optimistic. On April 26, the company said it expected to have some services restored within a week. Come May 1, it said again that some parts of PSN would be back up within a week, starting with important things like online multiplayer. The restoration update was going through internal testing on May 6. Today, May 9, nothing has returned yet.
There's still no firm word on when Sony's MMO division, Sony Online Entertainment, will be resume service. SOE was also hacked and subsequently brought offline for analysis and repairs, leaving players unable to play games including DC Universe Online.
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Sony said today it's still "uncertain" when the PlayStation Network will be back up, though full service is expected by the end of May.-
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L.O.L.
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Wow, they must be rebuilding the whole damn thing.
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I imagine most of the legal and management departments are putting in some heavy overtime dealing with Congressional inquiries.
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Ridge Racer 7 where you drive a giant enemy crab.
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Well, I think at the beginning they said they are totally rebuilding the network, so that takes time. Of course, it really shouldn't have happened begin with. Can't believe it's gonna be a month (more?) of downtime. As someone above said, their E3 show should be quite interesting indeed.
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I think they need to really step up with their "welcome back" campaign. If this goes another couple weeks, giving plus members a free month of service won't even be paying them back for what they've already lost. I think they should offer some free platinum games, give people a voucher or 2 that they can used to get a free platinum DLC game for free.
As someone who came from Xbox over to Sony, I know which one gets the nod in my mind. Unfortunately I'm locked into Sony right now as that is what my gaming group has. Argh! -
I feel bad for the companies selling downloadable games games for the PS3
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Yeah, they're definitely catching some of the worst interference of this PSN Outage. Not to mention other big name retail releases with online functionality like Mortal Kombat 9, Portal 2, and Socom 4 (especially Socom 4, with its focus towards online multiplayer).
To put this in perspecitve, Outland had a one day exclusivity deal with PSN and was set to be released almost a week after PSN went down, IIRC. A more niche example would be Arcana Heart 3, which was released for the PS3 -- but only on PSN, not a retail release -- on April 19th, around the same time PSN went down.
Consider what kind of impact an entire network outage for (what is looking to be) over a month has on digital distribution-only releases, past and upcoming. Taking sales factors into account, this situation is pretty fucked, to say the least. -
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yeah, the PSN store is pretty awful.
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The funny thing is the psn store was updated.
If you go to the dashboard you can see Angry Birds, Portal 2, and some other games that were not there before.
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LOL, they're continuing to bill PSN subscribers even though the service is down? Which means, they have NOT removed your credit card information from their servers if you're still getting recurring bill payments...Kinda an asshole move IMO
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O, I'll get to use my PC code almost a month and a half after I bought the PS3 version. Yay me.
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I keep hoping this will happen.
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I'm just wondering about the Infamous 2 beta.... as it looks... NONE of the user created missions will be implemented in time for the game's official release in June..... oh well... it was a good idea sony... just next time instead of spending a crapton of money on marketing.... secure your servers :D
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Sony be trippin' like a mug..
They really seem to have hobbled their console together for this generation using me too motion controls in the controller (remember that? The sixaxis controller is a motion controller? Has that been well supported?), the online is half-assed from the getgo and now is shown to be exactly that even on the backend, the 3rd party games aren't up to par with the competition, and on and on..
Whatever interest I even had in the PSN has now severely waned to the point I could care less if it comes back up at all. I even won a free copy of their baseball game and Infamous 2 but I'm not even excited about those anymore. What a clusterfuck. -
It wil be delayed.
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One ... step closer ... to making .... good on .... threat to sell console!!!!
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Would have been nice if they'd done that the first time.
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I think that's asking a bit much. PSN is really their first major network. Microsoft has rebuilt their Live network a number of times as well before we got to the current XBox Live network. They just were fortunate enough to have not suffered a major attack during their first couple of network revisions...granted their first few revisions might have been better than PSN ever was.
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Rebuilt it? Not that I've heard. They've expanded it, but they've never had to take the whole thing down for weeks. The blame is squarely in Sony's lap for using old, unpatched software.
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The Live network was down for a month before they introduced Passport. I also recall it being down for a very long time during the first few Hotmail revisions as well.
You have to remember XBox Live is just an extension of their Live network that has been reworked and rebranded a number of times before the Xbox came along.-
WTF are ypu talking about? I've been in Live since the original beta and the Xbox portion has never been down for a month. Don't try to make a false equivalency between Xbox Live and their other services.
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I realize that, but please point me to the outage that took Xbox Live down for a month.
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Nobody said XBox Live was down. READ THE FUCKING THREAD.
I stated the Live network AKA MSN AKA MSN2.0 AKA The Microsoft Network has been down in the past for total restructuring. Renaming the network to Live does not mean that XBox Live has never been down before. What if Sony renames their network to the Sony Network after it brings it back up. Can we make the statement that the Sony Network has never been down?-
In other words you brought up something that had absolutely nothing to do with Sony's responsibility in maintaining security on PSN. If you want to go down that road, how much of the restructuring that MS has did in the past was due to s devastating attack and how often were all the service down for over a month?
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Also, saying that the entire Live network including Xbox Live are all pretty well the same thing shows how clueless you really are. The structure of Live was in the works long before the Xbox was launched and even though there is communication between the Live website and the Live network trying to imply that somehow Live PC products and the Xbox products are all run by the same people from the same network shows how clueless you really are.
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WHY is everyone picking on SONY for? their online service is free..the hackers should have targeted Microsoft for their stupid point system and outlandish price for internet service. I think the PS3 is a hell of a good console.. blu-ray player, game system in one. I would hate for this to drive the PS name into the ground...where are the supporters?
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Ps triple yo!
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When a company is almost criminally negligent with its security, yeah, they deserve to be attacked. It hardly matters that a console has a Blu-ray drive if someone's on a thousand-dollar spending spree with your credit card.
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nobody deserves to be attacked ever this si the stupidest thing i have ever herd
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Did you just seriously compare this Sony debacle to rape?
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Yes, because those hackers completely raped PSN. The headline on my blog two weeks ago said HACKERS TOTALLY RAPE PSN. Admittedly, PSN wasn't wearing any underwear.
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Er, oops. I didn't mean hacked, I meant criticized.
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ok criticizing lots of people deserve
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Just to be fair nothing has been proven about their negligence in security. This whole unpatched server business may end up being media bullshit:
http://forum.beyond3d.com/showpost.php?p=1549251&postcount=491-
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Just to be fair, you sure seem to be an apologist for Sony. They fucked up. Period. Did PSN deserve to be attacked? No, but this is the real world and shit happens.
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get out of my interwebs with your "real world" - less QQ moar lolcats, prease.
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You mean facts like trying to imply that Xlbox Live has been down just as long int he past when in fact you are referring to other Microsoft services?
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Hahahahaha, okay pal. They all run off the same servers and the same people run them right?
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Have there been any verified reports of credit card fraud directly linked to the sony hack?
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Not that I know of, thankfully, but just the possibility is a problem, of course.
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It's not possible to do it yourself. Not like the people using the cards will be writing 'LOL Sony' on all of their receipts. But the credit card companies could be told the numbers they had stored on PSN and build up some shorter term fraud statistics. If the numbers deviate, seems like there would be a good chance it's Sony's fault.
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Sony employee account?
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Sony lost this console generation to MS and Nintendo, get over it, Chad.
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I think you'll fit in well here.
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LOL
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Sure, but he's not the one who has the solution for Sony's multiplayer issues. Credentials, please.
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It's a PITA to get a home or small-business network running smoothly. I can barely imagine how intensive it must be to write and design a whole online infrastructure from scratch. Why even waste the time trying to get it to work with some third party service like gamespy when those resources can go towards getting your own services up and running.
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I have very limited network experience, and if this isn't possible then I'm wrong. That's why I asked, "can't they just..." in my first comment instead of saying "they should just..." With all that being said, from what I understand the breach in security happened through the PS store (I looked for the link where I read this but can't find it.) Also multiplayer is run on seperate servers than the PS store and what not. I was suggesting renting server space at a company and mirroring Sony's multiplayer servers. Sure they may be completely rewriting that code as we speak but the current net-code would still work.
If I'm wrong about all this then I'll gladly concede to all of you. But I don't see how what I'm proposing is so difficult or can't be done.-
the problem is that PS3 games just do not know how to talk to a Gamespy server, so you can't just replace anything since they're two completely different systems with different communication protocols.
The most important thing to remember here is that games use PSN as a first port of call. If PSN isn't active then games have no way of knowing where to go to do their matchmaking. So obviously the minimum requirement to getting any multiplayer working is to get at least a matchmaking only PSN back online. Once that is up, the next question is what do they use for matchmaking. You mention yourself that the matchmaking was not the source of the problem, so instead of jury rigging a system where they can use Gamespy servers, they might as well just switch their own matchmaking servers back on and use those.
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That's a very pretty celestial teapot you have there.
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Someone needs to show the Sony admin staff where the "Export to Gamefly" button is. This whole sub-thread is awesome.
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You started digging a hole a few replies back, then you just had to go a get the fucking backhoe didn't you?
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nobody is claiming that the whole of PSN is required for multiplayer. What we're saying is that a gamespy server is not capable of running Playstation 3 multiplayer games and/or matchmaking. It's just not set up for it.
At the very least it would require Sony to get the basics of PSN back online since the games don't communicate directly with the matchmaking servers, they communicate with PSN. This stripped down PSN would need to take all requests and pass them on to the gamespy servers, then get the responses and pass them back to the game. That would be a shit load of work in itself. They might as well just build it from scratch themselves, which is what it looks like they're doing.
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You should send your resume to Sony, you obviously have this figured out so succinctly.
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Oh honey, we haven't even started with snarky yet.
You would make a top-notch paper tiger IT middle management guy.
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Damn, I thought psn would be back up by the time LA Noire came out. But . . . but . . . my dlc . . .
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if they are really going to charge my card for DConline when it's down that's some shady shit right there,
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Haha, no it's not: Sony has informed us that Bloomberg's wording, which was the foundation of this story, is inaccurate and the May 31 "deadline" does not exist. There does not appear to be any hard deadline established, only to return services as Sony determines the appropriate security measures are in place. (from Giantbomb)
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Seriously. I haven't touched the game in 2 weeks because I'm tired of single-player.
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They are still running ads for SOCOM 4 on TV and talking about "teamwork"...
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