PlayStation Network being rebuilt
After confirming the PlayStation Network had been hacked, Sony says it is rebuilding the system before bringing it back online.
As the prolonged outage of the PlayStation Network and Qriocity enters its fourth day the latest update on the PlayStation blog offers some insight on the steps being taken to restore service but no indication when that might happen. Sony senior director corporate communication and social media Patrick Seybold writes:
We sincerely regret that PlayStation Network and Qriocity services have been suspended, and we are working around the clock to bring them both back online. Our efforts to resolve this matter involve re-building our system to further strengthen our network infrastructure. Though this task is time-consuming, we decided it was worth the time necessary to provide the system with additional security.
We thank you for your patience to date and ask for a little more while we move towards completion of this project. We will continue to give you updates as they become available.
Following on the news that the PlayStation Network had been hacked, a complete rebuild does not come as a shock. Doing so before bringing it back online, though, does underscore the severity of the intrusion to Sony's network.
For the moment, Sony gets a pass on the lack of more detailed information with it being a holiday weekend and an ongoing sensitive situation as the necessary repairs are made. In this coming week, though, the extremity of this response demands that a full disclosure of the nature of the issues be given. In particular, subscribers need to know what, if any, threats their online wallet and credit card information may have been exposed to.
Our sympathies go out to all the engineers and their families who instead of enjoying the Easter holiday weekend are under the gun to get the PlayStation Network rebuilt.
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After confirming the PlayStation Network had been hacked, Sony says it is rebuilding the system before bringing it back online.-
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Overreact much? They have been able to keep it running just fine until the hacking started. At worst it would go down for an hour for maintenance. Basically they just now realized they need better security. It's stupid that it took them this long to realize it, but whatever. I am sure they will figure it out and it will be harder to take down, they will have extra backup measures, etc.
In terms of making it better, their opinion has always been make it better by giving features to people who really want it (ie, people who pay for PSN Plus). They have added auto-updating (while your PS3 sleeps), cloud saves, and tons of free games for subscribers. I think their goal is to just keep improving on that, because they don't want to be like Microsoft where they charge just to play online.
As for partnering with Valve, I would love this, but it is more expensive and impractical really. It would also put even more strain on Steam, so they would definitely be spending even more money they are now to convince Valve it is a good idea.
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Hooray for the hackers! What have they accomplished? SONY has lost millions and will go bankrupt and collapse like the evil giant mega-corp..........wait......
Taking them at their word that they are rebuilding their network from the ground up means a lot of man hours and while that will cost SONY money (which they will make up for in the long run) the real "vicitims" of this attack are the engineers and network coders that will be spending the holiday in front a screen rather than with family and friends. And those of us who could care less about hurting the great big bad evil capitalist company "suffer" from having no access to the services we have grown to expect or paid for int he case of PSPlus.
Work hard and fast SONY, I want to play some co-op Portal 2 with my kid. -
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"Our sympathies go out to all the engineers and their families who instead of enjoying the Easter holiday weekend are under the gun to get the PlayStation Network rebuilt."
And what about all the people out for Easter holiday who haven't had a service they were promised during the outage? If someone takes something from Sony (ie., game sales), they go after you. If someone attacks their DRM (taking their security), they go after that person with lawsuits o' plenty. I wonder, do you think we'd get as far in court as they do? Does our inconvenience and their lack of providing a service/what we want matter as much?
Nope. They get a free pass and a, "Man, feel sorry for those poor people for having built a network apparently easy to exploit." I feel no sympathy for the Corporation that tried to sue Hotz into submission. And I think their lack of contingency plans with regards to this is patently ridiculously.
When this is used as an excuse to charge for PSN, don't be surprised. Because it's easiest to make big changes to a culture after a catastrophe. I think their biggest problem was not when Anonymous hacked them. I think it was when they stopped early and they had no excuse to bring down the network and claim hackers forced them to go paid-for network.
So they created their own catastrophe. Else, I think we'd have an idea of who was doing it. There'd be some bragging. There is none. Unless MS or China is hacking Sony, I think this is a prelude to them beginning to charge for PSN, but they don't want to be going back on their word... so they require extraordinary circumstances.
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I agree with (some of) his point, but for other reasons. I am not sorry that those guys had to spend part of a weekend working. They have an 8 to 5 job to take care of the network. They felt that their security was perfect, or at least good enough. They didn't do anything to deal with problems that would cause them to have to work over a weekend. If the security was so bad that they have to rebuild the whole thing to get it back up and running then there are much worse problems that they *should* have been thinking about during their normal working hours but instead left it so they could miss what, for some, might have been a holiday weekend. Cry me a river. I've been an enterprise admin before. I've worked holidays before. I did what I could do at my job to keep that from happening.
TLDR: Do your job from 8 to 5 so you don't have to do it doing a holiday!
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This would never have happened on the PC
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You should read the terms of service you agreed to:
15. WARRANTY DISCLAIMER AND LIMITATION OF LIABILITY
No warranty is given about the quality, functionality, availability or performance of Sony Online Services, or any content or service offered on or through Sony Online Services. All services and content are provided “AS IS” and “AS AVAILABLE” with all faults. SCEA does not warrant that the service and content will be uninterrupted, error-free or without delays. In addition to the limitations of liability in Sections 1, 2, 11 and 13 of this Agreement, SCEA expressly disclaims any implied warranty of merchantability, warranty of fitness for a particular purpose and warranty of non-infringement. SCEA assumes no liability for any inability to purchase, access, download or use any content, data or service. YOUR SOLE AND EXCLUSIVE RECOURSE IN THE EVENT OF ANY DISSATISFACTION WITH OR DAMAGE ARISING FROM SONY ONLINE SERVICES OR IN CONNECTION WITH THIS AGREEMENT AND SCEA’S MAXIMUM LIABILITY UNDER THIS AGREEMENT OR WITH RESPECT TO YOUR USE OF OR ACCESS TO SONY ONLINE SERVICES SHALL BE LIMITED TO YOUR DIRECT DAMAGES, NOT TO EXCEED THE UNUSED FUNDS IN YOUR WALLET AS OF THE DATE OF TERMINATION. EXCEPT AS STATED IN THE FOREGOING SENTENCE, SCEA EXCLUDES ALL LIABILITY FOR ANY LOSS OF DATA, DAMAGE CAUSED TO YOUR SOFTWARE OR HARDWARE, AND ANY OTHER LOSS OR DAMAGE SUFFERED BY YOU OR ANY THIRD PARTY, WHETHER DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, OR CONSEQUENTIAL AND HOWEVER ARISING, AS A RESULT OF ACCESSING OR DOWNLOADING ANY CONTENT TO YOUR PLAYSTATION 3 COMPUTER ENTERTAINMENT SYSTEM, THE PSP (PLAYSTATION PORTABLE) SYSTEM, BRAVIA TELEVISION, SONY BLU-RAY DISC PLAYER OR ANY HARDWARE DEVICE, OR USING OR ACCESSING SONY ONLINE SERVICES. UNLESS THIS PROVISION IS UNENFORCEABLE IN YOUR JURISDICTION, THE FOREGOING LIMITATIONS, EXCLUSIONS AND DISCLAIMERS SHALL APPLY TO THE MAXIMUM EXTENT PERMITTED BY APPLICABLE LAW, EVEN IF ANY REMEDY FAILS ITS ESSENTIAL PURPOSE. Internet Service Provider fees are the full responsibility of the user. Authorized Devices sold separately.
http://us.playstation.com/support/termsofuse/
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Users weren't really 'unbanning' themselves, they were just able to change the unique hardware id to get around any bans that were active for their hardware id. The problem was that it was easy to see everyone else's hardware id that you were playing with, so you could clone legitimate ones easily and end up getting innocent people banned.
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A sincere question and please stop me where I'm wrong...
recently we were bound to accept the new EULA for PSN (about a month ago, April 1st to be more specific) ... and since the outage happened i actually rechecked the EULA file and was interested in section 15:
15. WARRANTY DISCLAIMER AND LIMITATION OF LIABILITY
No warranty is given about the quality, functionality, availability or performance of Sony Online Services, or any content or service offered on or through Sony Online Services. All services and content are provided “AS IS” and “AS AVAILABLE” with all faults. SCEA does not warrant that the service and content will be uninterrupted, error-free or without delays. In addition to the limitations of liability in Sections 1, 2, 11 and 13 of this Agreement, SCEA expressly disclaims any implied warranty of merchantability, warranty of fitness for a particular purpose and warranty of non-infringement. SCEA assumes no liability for any inability to purchase, access, download or use any content, data or service
Just in case you didn’t read it before!
which started to make me wonder, maybe they just wanted to rebuild the database regardless if they are being hacked/attacked or not, maybe now they are bound with adjustments and tweeks from Qriocity (a couple of devs and workers at SCEA where fired not long ago)
Thoughts anyone? (i hope someone proves me wrong, because this is the cheapest trick in the book, besides the fact the no one is taking pledge for the attack, and we all know that hackers usually do with pride )-
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Microsofts experience with there OS definitely makes Xbox 360 the safer bet at this point I guess. Its sad for Nintendo and Sony since now you will have to think how safe there online network is. Heck Nintendo's has been so barebones now for such a long time. I hate to feel safe with anything Microsoft but console wise I think Microsoft has Sony and Nintendo beat here.
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Most EULAs in general have a "sucker clause". Practically all of them have boilerplate that amounts to "If our product doesn't work, it's not our problem, sucks to be you. If our product causes your computer to explode, your house to burn down, and your dog to die, it's still not our problem, sucks to be you."
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A great move by Sony! A big thanks to the engineers, shame this had to happen but it was probably bound to happen thanks to the PS3 being exploited in the first place. You got to give Sony props though their systems been hack free for a long long time... They had to shut down other OS's because naturally you give someone a toy they will get bored and take it apart...
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Do you work for Sony? Or a company working for Sony? You do, don't you. Because you're sounding like a shill.
http://www.shacknews.com/article/68215/sony-confirms-playstation-network-hacked?id=25755765#itemanchor_25755765
http://www.shacknews.com/article/68215/sony-confirms-playstation-network-hacked?id=25753167#itemanchor_25753167
http://www.shacknews.com/article/68187/playstation-network-suffering-sporadic-outages?id=25745072#itemanchor_25745072
Hell, there are too many individual posts.
http://www.shacknews.com/search?chatty=1&type=4&chatty_term=Sony&chatty_user=Batmanshack&chatty_author=&chatty_filter=all -
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SCEA protected themselves in the little agreement you have already agreed to. This is what happens when a free service has problems and the provider knows how unsecure it is.
You wont be compensated because SCEA is not liable for you not being able to use the PSN service at all times.
I'm pretty sure they were waiting for something like this to bring it down and rebuild it from the botom up with the right security measures... just make sure you read that agreement this time around.
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