Fallout: New Vegas director doesn't care if TV series treats the game as canon

Josh Sawyer has been asked ad nauseum about New Vegas' place in the TV series, but his stance is the show can do whatever it wants.

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While love for Season 1 of the Fallout TV Series has been almost universal, there have been some concerns specifically among fans of Fallout: New Vegas. Often lauded as the best the Fallout series has to offer, fans have shared concern that the show treats events of New Vegas as non-canon, despite showrunner objections to the notion. Of course, that means fans have been asking New Vegas director Josh Sawyer what he thinks. Sawyer doesn’t seem to care, though. In fact, he’s been enjoying the show, but is detached from any ownership of it.

Sawyer shared his full thoughts on the Fallout TV series and its treatment of New Vegas events in a recent interview with Rock Paper Shotgun. There he joined in the praise that many critics and fans have given Season 1:

Walton Goggins as Cooper Howard in the Fallout TV series.
The events of Season 1 in the Fallout TV series had fans concerned that the show won't treat New Vegas as canon.
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As for how it treats New Vegas canon? Sawyer doesn’t care. He doesn’t feel like any of those characters or that universe belonged to him in the first place:

This might sound weird, but whatever happens with it, I don’t care. My attitude towards properties that I work on, and even characters that I create, is that I don’t own any of this stuff. It was never mine. And the thing that I made is what I made… If later on other people working in the space do new things with it and change it, I’ll maybe have opinions on it, but I don’t get attached to things in that way. I don’t feel like it’s healthy for me to be really invested in something I have no control over, frankly.

So there you have it. The Fallout TV series slayed in its first season and was quickly greenlit for a second season, so there will be plenty more to see. As we wait to see where it goes, stay tuned for more updates and details here at Shacknews.

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      April 24, 2024 1:17 PM

      Nobody should ever care if shit is "canon"

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        April 24, 2024 2:13 PM

        We have a hard enough time convincing people that reality is canon.

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        April 24, 2024 2:19 PM

        I agree. It's never something I've been concerned about.

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        April 24, 2024 2:35 PM

        I do. In that a good "canon" for a story can keep it on track, and keep it from splintering off into hot garbage.

        Recent cases of bad canon though? The Post Infinity-War MCU. Star Wars Ep. 9.

        So it's not always the case, but having a canon for a line of stories can be a good thing.

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        April 24, 2024 3:56 PM

        I think it’s cool when things take place in an established universe and adhere to the rules of that universe. You don’t have to go super hardcore about it but some adherence to what has already been established is a good thing IMO.

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        April 24, 2024 3:59 PM

        making stories internally consistent is important

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        April 24, 2024 4:02 PM

        midichlorians are canon

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        April 25, 2024 1:32 AM

        Yeah it's a different medium, doesn't make sense to try to adjust their story to each main storyline that ever been in one of the games.

        But they actually do great job with keeping things "in canon", better than any other video game interpretation I have ever seen. Even the New Vegas thing doesn't really break the canon. I really don't remember other shows or movies that treat their source material with such respect, maybe The Last Of Us and Mortal Kombat movie could be comparable.

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        April 25, 2024 3:34 AM

        I just hate the word haha

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      April 24, 2024 1:56 PM

      Don't even see how the game could be cannon giving the very wide set of endings

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        April 24, 2024 2:08 PM

        They pick an ending that is the "real" ending, just like in the Fallout and Elder Scrolls games.

        Given what we saw at the very end of the series, it seems unlikely House ended up on top at the end of NV. New Vegas is dark at the end of the series, and House had a plan to use power from the dam and resurrect the city. If the Legion won, I would've expected to see some sign of them. They weren't going to just stop at Vegas, and the NCR would've been in no position to stop them. That leaves the NCR winning, but being gutted before they were able to take advantage of the dam and generally stabilize their power base, or the Courier winning but the city ultimately collapsing anyway.

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          April 24, 2024 4:33 PM

          I mean the time line just doesn’t line up, NV takes place after the ncr was destroyed in the show.

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            April 24, 2024 5:00 PM

            o

            Given that it has been explicitly stated that the events of FO:NV are canon, my personal take is that the date on the chalkboard is a simple continuity error, but that's not the only possible explanation. Maybe the chalkboard is wrong for in-universe reasons. Or maybe we're missing part of the NCR's history and are interpreting the chalkboard wrong as a result.

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              April 25, 2024 1:40 AM

              The date is not of the bomb drop, this happened later, otherwise Lucy's age doesn't add up, so maybe there is no mistake. Could be also a slight change to the canon timeline and state of the world. There is pretty big attention to detail in the show so I'm sure they will add more info to this in the next season.

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                April 25, 2024 1:44 AM

                The showrunners and Howard already stated “The Fall of Shady Sands” and the bomb drop are too separate events. The bomb drop being shortly after the events of the New Vegas game.

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            April 25, 2024 1:41 AM

            The NCR wasn’t destroyed, their supposed (former?) “headquarters” was. It’s quite a splintered faction all over North California and neighboring states so they are not completely out of the picture. Question is what part Hoover Dam is gonna play in the next season and who controls it which I’d assume would be House or NCR. The BoS didn’t have a big presence in that area but that might have changed since New Vegas’ ending. I’d assume the Legion is no more.

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      April 25, 2024 6:52 AM

      WHAAA I need my made up story to be REAL!!!!

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