Xbox One hits 5 million shipped
Microsoft has been falling behind Sony in the latest console war. And in spite of the recent launch of Titanfall, the gap is only widening.
Xbox One is falling behind PS4
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replyAndrew Yoon posted a new article, Xbox One hits 5 million shipped.
Microsoft has been falling behind Sony in the latest console war. And in spite of the recent launch of Titanfall, the gap is only widening.-
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Bullshit. Benelux and the Nordics each have populations over 25 million people, both are bigger markets with healthier economies than some of the countries the Xbox One launched in. Microsoft already has established sales and marketing presences here and were planning big marketing pushes before the last-minute decision to postpone the release.
It has nothing to do with sales potential. Denmark has a population of 5,5 million, and the PS3 has lifetime sales of over 600k here. We love our consoles.
It's the misguided insistence native-language voice commands for all markets that's been holding the Xbox One back from half of Europe, not a lack of demand or supply.
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8m 360s in UK, but 5m in the whole of the rest of the EU + Africa + Middle East, according to wiki:
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Explain your math. The European Xbox One launch countries have a combined population of around 320 million people. The combined population of the European Union is 700 million.
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i enjoyed watching microsoft getting punished for their attempts against customers interest but basically it's its a reverse of the last gen when sony went full on assholes with tech/price and marketing. it took forever for them to bounce back but eventually, despite ending up with the often less desirable multi-platform ports they had the exclusive titles that i actually wanted to play (which isnt saying much really given how i despise halo,cod,madden and gears so i'm not really representative).
right now i want neither console due to lack of actual games and generally not being a console person (every one but the nes/snes collected dust) but if i were to buy one i honestly couldn't find a reason to buy a xbone as someone who already owns a gaming pc. this said, the only case to make for the ps4 are also the games to come, less the games available.
its weird that the games iam mildly interested in are all available on the wiiu. which for the life of me i won't buy (my ds/lite and cube collected dust).-
Or not going enough toward their customers interests.
I would love an XB1 if it had WMC integration, but it doesn't, so I stick with the 360. It'd be great to have all the extra stuff that XB1 has but it's pretty useless to me if I have to keep the 360 on at the same time to be able to watch TV.
Unfortunately it seems like the XB1 was too ahead of its time. It either needed to have a cablecard tuner and built-in DVR functionality, or a lot better interoperability with existing STB's.
(What I'm saying is I'd love it for all it's media playback capability and gaming as a secondary focus. If it could do the media stuff well enough for me so I don't have one.)-
probably, media was the reason why many bought the original huge xbox without any games to do xbmc.
later the 360 lacked those abilities etc. apparently the ps4 has trouble with some blue-rays and also pales to the abilities of the ps3 as a media center. this stuff will come with time but honestly i can do a pretty good mediacenter with less than the 500€ and chances are i can do some gaming on it as well. -
well it's getting plex support apparently.
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i agree, ecosystem plays a part as well. if ms manages to unify its win8,xbone winphone stuff this could be an advantage and it seems they have so far decided to concentrate all their efforts on north america and a lesser degree the uk (which are weirdos). microsoft also has deep pockets, the can afford to go at a huge loss for a long time and they did with all of their previous efforts.
its clear why ms is getting pummelled right now, its early adopters/hardcore gamers but if they can pull a wii with some kind of broadly mass compatible game bundle they can pull this around at this stage and i'm guessing they hedged their bets for just this. -
I thought the same thing too, until I really looked back on the last gen with Sony. Seriously, the guys got hacked, and their PR was a nightmare. Remember the tweet from Sony with the jailbreak key? http://s1.ibtimes.com/sites/www.ibtimes.com/files/styles/v2_article_large/public/2011/02/09/64206-kevin-butler-tweets-sony-jailbreak.jpg
Sony STILL turned it around by the end! MS can turn it around at any time, they just have to A.) really want to turn it around and B.) Have a great hook. In the case of Sony, the hook was PSN. Which was and is brilliant.-
People will buy the system with the good games. That's all either of them need to do. Right now, neither of them are compelling, no offense to Titanfall*.
* Yes, it's neat, but it's not CoD. And the MP-only FPS market is very focused on its two big hitters. Titanfall is on the PC as well, it's not exclusive enough to make that big of a push, as the NPD numbers show. (The One sales were 311,000 for March, not that impressive. Feb's sales were 258,000 units).
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And until more big exclusives come out, the deciding factor for most consumers will be price. If you are standing in a store right now looking at a PS4 vs a XB1, and you do not care about Titanfall, the $100 price difference is probably all that matters.
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You're right, it's BETTER than CoD!
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Except a lot of what they wanted to do was pretty interesting and could have been cool or useful. Sadly because of the usual internet overreaction the baby got thrown out with the bath water.
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Was what they wanted to do cool? Yes, but their execution, even with the abandonment of "always on" has been poor.
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I think the problem is they don't have a proper visionary at the helm right now. You need someone that knows when to listen and when to say "fuck it" and go forward with ideas that might not be popular at first, but will lead to long terms success.
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Definitely right. It would also help if they had the promised product in better shape when it launched.
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I don't think in this case it's really fair to blame the internet, the MS marketing of the original Xbox One design was absolutely terrible - they didn't have enough concrete benefits lined up/set in stone compared to all the limitations they were imposing
I agree that in principle it could have been interesting and cool, but they did a completely piss poor job of selling their vision-
I think it's fair to partly lay the blame on MS, but you can't say there wasn't the usual explosive internet indignation. I mean, FFS, Adam Orth got death threats.
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When has Microsoft's marketing division not done a piss poor job of selling their vision?
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dunno which kind of selective logic you subscribe to but given the backlash, mockery and 180° turn they had to do there was lots of comedy gold to be enjoyed. as for the success of the consoles it might be noteworthy that they are behind in sales, still have bad press regarding the technical abilities due to their decision to implement a mandatory camera instead of a faster cpu/gpu and ram and generally have taken unnecessary flak for being incompetent in handling their message and product at a time where everyone was freaking out. long term some of the things they wanted to implement initially will happen and thats good.
as for them trying to pull an apple, well yeah only that apple had a different product and audience.
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As long as they both get good games, they'll eventually even out. WATCH_DOGs is the next big bump for both.
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CLAY HAD ONE JOB.
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Hahahaha
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how was PS3 doing at this point last gen? it'll be fine.
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thats a dumb argument that gets thrown around though. if console x outsells console y for an extended period of time amongst an audience of early adopters/hardcore gamer that buy many games, imagine what console will become the lead platform for most developers?
i don't know if they sell both at a loss but either way the money comes not through units sold but software. its far from grim but the shit about BOTH consoles outselling the previous generation isnt comforting if one of them is falling behind relative to the other.-
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the market growing is a good thingwhich nobody negates, i dunno if anyone is making money at this point, i remember both losing a good chunk of money per unit last time around but this time they were more cost effective in their choices it seems. back then they had to sell at least 3 games or something to get even. microsoft was in the red forever with the first xbox and they had the pockets for it. and i agree that ms needed that kick in the balls, the same way sony did last gen and it took a long time for the to rebound.
we are evaluating the relative positions at this stage and if you ask who is not winning in this situation even the microsoft representative will telly you who. thats why they keep say stuff like "its a marathon, we have just begun this cycle" etc
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This.
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This is like calling the winner of the Indy 500 after the first lap.
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Winner of Le Mans after the first 10 minutes.
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does the kinect count the penis as a joint because I got some interesting game ideas
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Because that's what he wants to develop for.
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Yeah, a lot of people I know chose to wait for the 360 version which is selling like hotcakes here in the UK. Hell, the 360 version is £12 more expensive than the Xbone version and is actually selling out at many retailers.
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They wont admit it as a mistake because the whole fucking machine is designed around it.
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as a company? they're kicking sony's ass and have been for 5-7 years.
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Perhaps you should check the balance sheet because MS is actually doing better. Sony is hurting.
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The youtube app on the One has completely taken over my tv. It's a great implementation. It feeds me a couple hours of new content every day from my subscriptions (giantbomb to /drive) You can subscribe to anything from all the other list using the d-pad. My only complaint is it doesn't work with the media remote, but it's been getting regular updates.
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www.youtube.com/tv
Works on any console with the D-pad and you can sync it and use a mobile device to display it on the tv.
No need for a APP to do that.
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I miss the weekend confirmed thread, just because I would like to see how Mysssss would spin these numbers. Long live fan boys!
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