Battlefield 3 PC to get squad management

A forum thread suggests that the PC version of Battlefield 3 will get squad management features currently missing, but the wording makes mid-match squad switching uncertain.

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The console beta of Battlefield 3 lets players form private squads and switch in the middle of a match, but those features are curiously missing from the PC version. Now a DICE representative has assured players that some of those options will be in the finalized version of the PC game, but left the mid-match switching a looming question.

"In short answer form, yes, you can browse and join squads through the squad screen and make private squads. The full form will be available later," wrote a DICE employee in a forum post (via Gameranx). That takes care of some of the missing squad management features.

However, mid-match squad switching seems less promising. A tweet from DICE community manager Daniel Matros suggests that all squad features will go through Battlelog. Given how Battlelog is currently set up, that would probably mean forming squads before joining a server instead of using an in-game squad browser. Shacknews has contacted EA to clarify.

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    October 5, 2011 10:45 AM

    Steve Watts posted a new article, Battlefield 3 PC to get squad management.

    A forum thread suggests that the PC version of Battlefield 3 will get squad management features currently missing, but the wording makes mid-match squad switching uncertain.

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      October 5, 2011 10:58 AM

      They posted another update: http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf3/forum/threadview/2826564925962155306/

      HOW WILL SQUADS WORK IN THE RETAIL VERSION OF BATTLEFIELD 3 ON PC/XBOX 360/PLAYSTATION 3?

      Since the Open BETA we’ve added more advanced functionality to manage your squad. You will be able to browse and join specific squads through the squad screen. You can see all players that are in a specific squad as well as who’s playing as lone wolf. As a squad leader you can set your squad to private as well as kick players from the squad.

      On console you will also be able to choose if you want the active VoIP channel to be team or squad and invite friends to your squad. You will also be able to mute any player on your team through the scoreboard.

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        October 5, 2011 11:01 AM

        wow, I am truly surprised that they're going to fix squads.

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        October 5, 2011 11:02 AM

        Very cool! Thanks!

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        October 5, 2011 11:07 AM

        thank god

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        October 5, 2011 11:34 AM

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          October 5, 2011 11:56 AM

          it hast to be the one in game. currently joining with a party of 4 via battlelog produces wildly differing results. some people aren't even on the same team.

          and then when a round ends and the server tweaks itself, it will break up your party. which is fucking STUPID. and then you have to leave the server and start all over again.

          it takes so long to get a squad of friends going, it's just asinine. they should have hired the MW2 partying -> game team. you make a party, you get a game, and that crew stays together. sheesh.

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        October 5, 2011 12:01 PM

        FUCK YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! MACE HAPPINESS!!!!!!!!!

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        October 5, 2011 12:27 PM

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          October 5, 2011 12:55 PM

          VOIP isn't only for consoles, but you have to be in a party formed on Battlelog to use it. There is no in-game VOIP for PC, it's just in Battlelog (If you create a party its at the top left of the party window).

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            October 5, 2011 12:56 PM

            *Top right sorry

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            October 5, 2011 1:02 PM

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              October 5, 2011 1:08 PM

              IIRC, it also default binds push to talk to shift. which is also sprint. so it's 99% hot mic action with lots of swearing.

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                October 5, 2011 1:09 PM

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                  October 5, 2011 1:17 PM

                  haha yeah it's terrible. we use mumble or ventrilo. then we can hear the "god dammit I got switched to the other team" stuff nice and clearly.

                  they better fix that shit ASAP. right now there is basically no point to even try to squad up with your friends.

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              October 5, 2011 3:20 PM

              Oh I agree, it's pretty crap. I just use Vent and play with friends. But it is there.

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        October 5, 2011 1:02 PM

        Sweet, good to know they're fixing this.

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        October 5, 2011 3:50 PM

        Thank fucking christ.

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      October 5, 2011 11:06 AM

      It was about time!

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      October 5, 2011 11:30 AM

      Pre-order... still pre-ordered. I never faltered.
      http://tinyurl.com/3vhzru9

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      October 5, 2011 11:54 AM

      Did they really think they could get away without having this feature in the first place?

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        October 5, 2011 12:05 PM

        It was never about that and more to do with prioritizing what should go in the beta or not.

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          October 5, 2011 12:14 PM

          Wait, you're telling me you didn't start rewriting the whole squad thing due to the recent internet outrage?!?!

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            October 5, 2011 12:38 PM

            why would they rewrite it? Probably ported most of the code from BC2.

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      October 5, 2011 12:04 PM

      Finally

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      October 5, 2011 12:09 PM

      I hope this thread gets just as many replies as the ones where people complained and assumed this wouldn't get fixed before release.

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        October 5, 2011 12:28 PM

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          October 5, 2011 12:31 PM

          As per my previous post, it was something that was always meant to be done, regardless of the issues of it not being in the beta.

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            October 5, 2011 12:49 PM

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              October 5, 2011 12:50 PM

              Because big companies are always that nimble, and when they are in crunch time sometimes they are WORKING ON THE GAME.

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                October 5, 2011 12:50 PM

                *aren't

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                October 5, 2011 3:01 PM

                big companies fucking suck, BACK TO THE DAYS OF 8-member iD SOFTWARE IN ONE ROOM CODING LIKE MAD!!!

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            October 5, 2011 12:56 PM

            So what was the deal with Matros saying squadding will be on the battlelog side of things a few days ago? Another case of a community managers not knowing enough? Poor translation?

            It really seemed like you guys were trying to stick as much as possible into Battlelog, it's basically the front end for many things. You have the server browser, friends, stats, unlocks, voice, even launching the SP game right there. Surprisingthat video / audio / control settings aren't available there either.

            And either way, squad management was missing in game and in the battlelog for the beta, yet it's such a standard Battlefield feature and the BC2 beta, quite a buggy one (along with everything else) that feedback helped to improve. So were you guys trying to relegate the squad ui stuff to the main web hub like the rest and do it more console style of creating parties and sticking with them only to scrap it sometime in development because it's much more intuitive and functional to have in the game ui itself, or was that never even considered?

            This is all baseless speculation, but to me it seems like the internet outrage only confirmed the conclusion DICE had reached a while ago.

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              October 5, 2011 2:36 PM

              Didn't he also say in a forum post that he had to check with the team to find out how squadding works but that it was broken in beta? Or was that someone else?

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                October 5, 2011 2:47 PM

                I never saw a post like that, no idea who it was. I assume he would have followed up his own tweet with the same information when shit starting hitting the fan if he was that clueless.

                It's been a standard Battlefield feature since 2005, so unless there was some serious indecisiveness by the devs and he didn't know their final choice or he's representing a series he really knows little about, I can't imagine why he would state that.

                Suppose it's possible he doesn't know much about the PC side of things and with Battlelog being new and all he assumed anything left out of the beta would go there too.

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                  October 5, 2011 2:54 PM

                  It was Bazajaytee I guess, somewhere around the time the tweet went out

                  From a post on the 3rd:

                  We have seen the forums comments about squads.
                  I will need to verify with the game team as it has gone through updates since the BETA went live.

                  You are correct though, the BETA squad system is broken and a known bug.


                  and

                  We are most definitely watching and taking note of all the feedback you are giving.
                  The team is hard at work fixing issues for retail and isn't a lot of time to respond to everything that is going on with the forums but I have someone looking into writing up how squads are designed to work so watch this space for updates. We will probably post it in the NEWS section too as it is a very common subject.


                  http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf3/forum/threadview/2826551518966795507/

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                    October 5, 2011 3:02 PM

                    Yeah, different guy and in response to the response to Matros' tweet a couple of days later.

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            October 5, 2011 2:51 PM

            I DON'T BELIEVE YOU rabble rabble herp derp

            just kidding, I can't wait to give you my money !!

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      October 5, 2011 12:30 PM

      One down, many to go.

      Next up should be getting out of the shitty kill cam mode at users's discretion, and into the spawn menu / kit selection.

      And similarly getting into kit selection during the end of round down time, instead of staring at a useless scoreboard for +45 seconds.

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      October 5, 2011 1:09 PM

      how is in game Voice? is it in the beta?

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      October 5, 2011 1:39 PM

      Awesome, some of those options will be in the finalized version of the PC game

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        October 5, 2011 2:43 PM

        source?

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          October 5, 2011 7:07 PM

          did you read the first paragraph?

          Now a DICE representative has assured players that some of those options will be in the finalized version of the PC game, but left the mid-match switching a looming question.

          I was being sarcastic.

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      October 5, 2011 2:12 PM

      Funny how people are all excited about something that of course they had to put in the game! How can you not have squad management in BF3?

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        October 5, 2011 2:32 PM

        You must have missed the comment from the community manager a few days ago. He mentioned squadding being done via battlelog and everyone took that as confirmation that the lacking in game squad features of the beta would carry over to the final, it wasn't a hard conclusion to jump to with a comment like that and all the other stuff they've stuck in the battlelog.

        People aren't so much excited as they are relieved it's going to work how they expect.

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          October 5, 2011 2:53 PM

          yah not to mention the beta is pretty lacking in usually PC game features... i really hope retail is fixed up, but I won't be surprised if its buggy and incomplete as hell. :(

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      October 5, 2011 2:54 PM

      how are they going to have all this shit ready and in a playable form (ie not bugged to shit) in less than 3 weeks?

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        October 5, 2011 3:02 PM

        Probably by the fact that the Beta version is over a month old so any changes since then aren't in it?

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      October 5, 2011 3:35 PM

      This would be an impressive omission if they left it out. The amount of time it would take to add an option to allow people to join certain squads would be quite negligible.

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        October 5, 2011 3:38 PM

        PS for the love of good spend some time on good Anti-Cheat techonology... not just PB... This game looks too nice to be immediately hacked to pieces.

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          October 5, 2011 7:00 PM

          Good anti cheat is the pot of gold over the rainbow. Can you name one implementation that'd work?

          At the end of the day good admins couple with PBbans is still the best.

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