Evening Reading

Though I didn't get to talk about Minecraft on Weekend Confirmed, I figured I'd write down my updated (brief) impressions here in ER.

I played Minecraft for about three hours this week and I found myself enjoying the quest for better ore for better items, but eventually grew bored. There just isn't enough "game" in there yet for me to enjoy. I completely understand why people love it for the multiplayer and creation mode, but I hope Notch makes it more of a game.

I came to the conclusion that if Minecraft and Nethack could be combined into some sort of dungeon-crawling, craft-your-items-from the-world-around-you, RPG-type game... well, I would play that game forever and ever.

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    October 8, 2010 5:02 PM

    Everyone in the world has their own infinite factory, and it works by itself to produce whatever they want. The only thing they don't have is someone to design a product the factory can make, which something had and time consuming to do. But whenever someone makes a design, everyone everywhere automatically has that design, for free. So, how do we get people to make those designs in the first place? Few are going to pay someone to make a design, because there's little way of knowing if it's any good before it's finished. Few are going to pay for a good design after it's finished, because they already have it for free.

    A paradox then, how is it solved?

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      October 8, 2010 5:04 PM

      Have them make the design then kill anyone who goes and makes it for free.

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      October 8, 2010 5:06 PM

      The people who love to design are going to design regardless of if they are getting paid or not.

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      October 8, 2010 5:09 PM

      It's solved by GETTING A REAL JERB

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      October 8, 2010 5:10 PM

      Because everyone will have enough free time to design whatever they want to design. Why do you need restitution for your work if you have the possibility of making anything you could want?

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      October 8, 2010 5:11 PM

      what makes you think we'd even have or need a currency system if this infinite factory existed

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      October 8, 2010 5:13 PM

      Inventors of successful inventions are "paid" via fame, and oral sex. Other types of sex too, probably. Money is meaningless in such a world, so you have to look at other systems of reward.

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      October 8, 2010 5:14 PM

      In this situation designers would be celebrities and would do it for the notoriety.

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        October 8, 2010 5:20 PM

        ^^^To be a top notch designer would be equivalent to being Brad Pitt or Johnny Depp. Your face would be everywhere – advertisements, billboards, commercials

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          October 8, 2010 5:24 PM

          i think the person who designed the infinite factory itself would eventually become some kind of god figure

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          October 8, 2010 5:26 PM

          Advertisements for what?

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            October 8, 2010 5:27 PM

            Even if everyone has an infinitely producing factory and all the items are made available, you will need advertisements to show people how the product is used and why they would want it.

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              October 8, 2010 5:45 PM

              Where does the money come for said advertising if the patterns are free?

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                October 8, 2010 5:51 PM

                What? You make the ads in your infinite factory. Currency has 0 use in a world where anybody can make anything.

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      October 8, 2010 5:18 PM

      I would just design a factory that generates artificial intelligence which designs top-notch designs automatically (designs that include self improvement). It's so well designed that the technology generated from these automatic processes will roughly double every 6 months to a year in terms of speed, efficiency, and costs. Within a few years it reaches singularity AND OMG WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE.

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      October 8, 2010 5:25 PM

      1 make it illegal to distribute and download the plans for free
      2 attach drm to them
      3 every now and then sue some single mother for 300 billion in damages for downloading a shoe-plan for her daughter.
      4 ????

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      October 8, 2010 6:00 PM

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      October 8, 2010 6:01 PM

      Fuck if we have that world I guarantee that everyone has food and lodging for free. Then why does it matter anymore, why would you care about getting paid to design something. The situation isn't a paradox, you've forced into one by ignoring the environment it would create.

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      October 8, 2010 6:08 PM

      I think this is flawed. 1% inspiration, 99% perspiration. You can have all the good ideas in the world, but it takes work to see the product. I understand what you're saying, if it pertains to copyright law, but otherwise I would have to disagree. Workers are supposed to own the rights of production. Anyone can own the rights to inception :)

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      October 8, 2010 7:11 PM

      Many designers would work purely for the joy of it. Other designers with a proven track record might be in it for the celebrity and the associated social favors that would bring from people who want to be around fame. I think you would also have exchanges of personalized artistic works (paintings, songs, films, etc.) or personal favors (control of another person's time would be invaluable) for the promise of a more practical design to address a personal need or desire (a necessary drug for a condition you have, a well-trained animal, maybe you just want a bigger TV).

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      October 8, 2010 7:22 PM

      If you have an infinite factory, what good is money at all?

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      October 8, 2010 9:00 PM

      Someone's been reading The Diamond Age?

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      October 8, 2010 9:14 PM

      My friends are all involved in commercial design in one way or another, and most of their output is unpaid personal projects. Some people actually enjoy what they do for the sake of it.

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      October 8, 2010 9:43 PM

      design obfuscated devices that kill people closeby when they are assembled but look like they do something else and are decribed as doing something else and don't build any; other people will build them and kill themselves thus eliminating competition and making people more wary about building shit they dont understand.

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