Evening Reading: Game Padding
Before the show-and-tell even ended I was questioning all the hype given games in the run-up to the announcement. Back when we did the John's iPhone game of the week segment on the podcast it would seriously divide the audience because the cool games on the platform often fell outside the conventional expectations. It was what made them intriguing and one of the main reasons I was wanted a Touch just for games. At the iPad announcement, only two games, a shooter and racing game, were shown. It doesn't get much more traditional in video games than that.
That's not to say the other games won't be part of it all. The iPad runs all the existing apps so that's not an issue. The decision to show these off, though, points to the trap posed by the larger screen. It's going to be easy to get caught up in making games to "take advantage" of it. But traditional games and high fidelity multimedia gaming haven't been the strength of handheld gaming, just ask the PSP.
For that matter, the iPad isn't exactly a handheld as we usually think of it in the game world anyway. I mean, it's not like you're going to jam it in your pocket. I'm looking forward to playing around with one but for the moment I don't think I need or want the cool iPhone/Touch games blown up. I don't see myself sitting around the house where I have real HD consoles set up wanting to play more ordinary games either. And I wonder whether developers can justify dedicated iPad versions of games when the installed base is so strong already for the smaller size. We've seen divided platforms before; it's not pretty.
We did have some other eye-catching stories on Shack today:
- There's also plenty to talk about in the Mass Effect 2 comments thread
- Details on the DRM for BFBC2 on PC are out
- Ultima set to return...as a strategy game
- Screens and info on the Sins 'Diplomacy' expansion
In case you haven't already seen it, MadTV predicted iPad a while ago
If you like that Bayonetta ad, here's the addictive music from it
Oh, and we're giving away 10 copies of some game called Mass Effect 2 -- 5 PC and 5 Xbox 360. You know the drill, in the comments.
UPDATE: To be specific, this is the Mass Effect 2 contest thread. The rest will be nuked and who wants to make the mods have to spend all night nuking?
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I wasn't especially inspired by the iPad, but it doesn't look horrible.
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http://i.gizmodo.com/5458382/8-things-that-suck-about-the-ipad
Pretty good description of what i feel is wrong with it.
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1. It's the perfect computer for people who don't already use or know how to use computers.
2. It's really complimentary to people who already own itunes content.
3. eBooks and magazines are going to be a big market and this may be the reader of choice, as 99% of people don't have the slightest clue what "e-ink" is or why it's better for reading.
4. The hardware is pretty slick.
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What did you think of Windows 7's touch interface? It may not have been perfect, but it seemed like the first attempt at showing that MS actually gives a shit about touchscreens. After using Surface, I know that it's physically possible for them to make a good touchscreen interface, they just need to work on it more.
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I haven't seen or used the touch interface beyond a really lame demo I saw at one of those Win 7 developer day things. I agree they do care about them -- they need to look like they're keeping up technology-wise with Apple, but I don't ever see them building a device that does what an iPad does that doesn't somehow involve Windows. They'd be cutting themselves off at the knees compared to what they're going to make off selling copies of Win7 and Office installed on a Windows Tablet PC.
Can you imagine them making a custom touchscreen version of MS Office then selling it for $10/app? Yeah me neither.
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is this bad humor i dont know http://0.thumbs.4chan.org/g/thumb/1264643192000s.jpg
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Sorry, I was on the phone and could not expound on the subject. Perhaps you are right about the tablet not being pressure sensitive...but what if it is? What then? Can we automatically dismiss such an item prior to its arrival if we think it does not have some capabilities? I think not.
I will reserve judgment. Perhaps you are right, however.
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again, it looks like it will mature into a very nice device. there will often be times when i wake up, and i want to check my email and surf the web before getting up. this is something that could fill that need, if i don't feel like getting up to get my laptop. sure, i could have my laptop sitting next to my bed, but it seems that the target for this is still someone who ALREADY has a laptop.
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until i use one i dont think its for me. that said i can think of people that would love one.
my mum liked my ipod touch but it was too small for her to use for anything she asked me "why dont they make a bigger one that i can read text on" and thats what they have done. they have their laptop (which is a 17inch desktop replacement) and it stays put, it never moves. i could see my mum getting on of these so she can read internet news and send emails from the couch.
i think it might end up being one of those things you change your mind about when you try it.
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John Gruber of DaringFireball got to play with it and said he was really impressed with it and that the web surfing was really snappy. I don't know, I'm not too impressed, but I think I would get my money's worth because lying on my couch and surfing the web and playing games on a big ipod touch sounds like something I would spend a lot of time doing.
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It won't really matter once video embedding works. That's the only significant thing that the lack of Flash brings to mobile devices.
Games are the only wide usage of Flash that I don't see being displaced by HTML5. Even now AJAX covers so much. I can't imagine how shitty some of those AJAX heavy pages would be if they used Flash instead.
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I really do applaud them for standing strong against Flash. It will take someone like Apple (and more) to turn the tide. At this point, I'm not sure that a web developer can completely ignore the market of users that would be left out were crucial elements of their site to be available only through Flash.
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Probably not for me but I can also see that its a great alternative to Macbooks or netbooks. Cheaper than a Macbook, faster than a netbook, with very nice hardware. It having an IPS display is huge points from me. It has functional limitations out of the box but based on the hands on videos it seems to do what its made for pretty well. Apps will fill out the rest like it did with the iPhone.
I secretly hope that this negates the need for me to buy another Macbook Pro when I decide to retire my current one. The price is just too good, but I'm not sure.-
I think App developers will do a lot of the filling out, like with the iPhone. A lot of people are just harping on what it isn't doing right now, but the possibilities of new apps specifically for that size is great.
For example all those recipe apps could turn into full on cooking assistants now that it's big enough to read from a distance. Advance recipe steps by voice commands, don't have to touch it with greasy hands, etc... I know I'd love that. -
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That's exactly what I'm thinking. Aside from occassional FTP and booting into Windows to play TF2 or L4D2, which I did exactly three times last year, I could easily have done all that stuff on an iPad. I got the MBP partly for Final Cut Pro, and its installed, but I never use it, ever. iChat is the biggest "if"; there better be an awesome client made for it.
I dunno, I can't commit to buying a tablet without a test drive, but I'm all for saving a few bucks with this thing instead of a notebook if it works well. -
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And we still do. :)
Looked pathetic before, looks even more pathetic now. I have higher hopes for a custom version of Android or Chrome OS on a tablet.
Microsoft needs to get their heads out of their asses. Full desktop operating systems on generic tablet hardware has failed for years because it doesn't work. The sooner they ship a tablet with a specialized OS the better.-
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Microsoft needs to ditch that line of thinking and approach tablets like they did with the ZuneHD or XBox, ditto their reliance on handset partners for their mobile devices. It simply doesn't work, they're getting creamed by Apple and RIM, and if they don't react accordingly they will also get smoked in tablets. They have been in the touchscreen market for years and they still have yet to gain any traction in it.
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an example of something that looks nicer
http://www.tabletized.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/apple-table-ipad-itablet-macbook-touch9.jpg
take a light paper notebook and hold in your left hand with your hand in a semi-fist shape thumb pointing away from you / to the sky. that's how i would hold a tablet. i wouldn't be arching my thumb and holding it with pad (haha) of my finger.
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example : http://i47.tinypic.com/2hqfekl.jpg
completely sturdy and easy to hold like that on both edges for easy extended reading. completely supported by my hand under it.
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Its a pound and a half, you'll want to get one thumb around and on the front of it if you want to hold it up. The Kindle weighs a lot less and its bezel is also made for holding that way. Pretty necessary sometimes.
The face of the iPad is also glass, you really don't want to be dropping it, nor do you want to give a legitimate excuse for damaged iPads from droves of customers that were all holding the edges with their fingertips because they didn't want to block the display.
It doesn't look great but any device I've tried in tha size has had a bezel of some sort. -
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I can understand that. That is why many of the people who know how to actually use a computer think this is a joke. The iPad in a way brings us one step closer to idiocracy . Now old people don't need to learn how to use a computer, let's just lock them into what Apple wants. Apple has the final say in everything that is executed on the iPad. Apple doesn't give the user the chance to make mistakes, hence the user doesn't learn from them either. Old folks don't need to do much anyway, so that's fine for them, but not for everyone else who's already learned how do do things. The true revolutionary device would be one that does the same thing but doesn't limit people. Give me that same damn device but able to run a real OS on it and I would have thought about buying one. I like the idea behind it, I just don't like not being able to do what I want to with it other then their approved apps.
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I really can't decide if I want one. I think I'm gonna wait until after the wifi one comes out and see what the reviews coming in say. I think it looks awesome for a lot of things, but definitely lacks some of the functionality I was hoping for.
I just wanted something that looked at some of the functions of the courier and said "hey that's a good idear" and thieved them and made them their own. Also it's a 1 ghz processor and we still have no multitasking? Fucking limit it to 5 apps if you really want but let me fucking listen to pandora and browse through the new york times. It's re god damn diculous. -
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One thing that can't be overstated is what this means for developers. They now have an extremely rich and powerful platform to develop on with virtually no preexisting competition (excluding current iPhone apps). Couple that with an already well established means of sale and distribution, and you have a great combination of factors to promote creativity.
For example, I would love an iPad app that would mimic the functionality of this device: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJwxbTKwONc
Its something you simply couldn't recreate properly on any other platform. If the iPad becomes home to this type of software, it will create a fantastic new niche in computing. -
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Get ready for disappointment. Same font is used in the iPad build of Notes...
You could always use my app. :P www.cocoatasks.com (yes I am a $2 whore)
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Everyone comparing this to a lowend laptop or netbook is a retard. Some people don't want either, they already have a home pc and don't want another, but what they do want is a nice slim, slick device that has Internet capability. It also helps that it is well designed and doesn't look like it was made by a group of 60 year old engineers.
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It'd be awesome if some other company just cloned it with a linux or winCE derivative OS and some USB or whatnot ports. It could even be another 100-200$ cheaper. The hardware set has been around in less powerful forms for 5+ years (ARM-based tablets are pretty simple), Apple has just decided to refresh it and put it into a more elegant case.
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we're likely getting one for my little girl as a teaching tool. She's had delays in her speech, but the tablet PC I got has really helped her make some amazing strides. She uses it like a pro and knows how to play the games at nick jr, etc... anyhow - the only drawback to the tablet is its stylus controlled, and we really like the idea of the ipad being touch driven. it'll make things even easier.
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