New Xbox 360 Dashboard Shown in Leaked Video, Game Installation Demonstrated
In addition to game installs and Netflix streaming support, the new dashboard--dubbed the New Xbox Experience--will pack customizable Avatars and the original blade interface when it arrives this fall.
As previously reported, and demonstrated in the footage below, installed games will still require the disc to run as a result of piracy concerns. [videofeature]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQMAz1qIWvs [img]/extras/faylor/xboxleak.jpg[/img][/videofeature]
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replyOther than the loud as fuck dvd drive I don't see what this really does. Maybe some loading times decrease, but you still have to have the dvd in the drive to start the game which makes this pointless really imo. That would be so awesome if we could just install it and never need the dvd in the tray again.
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I'm sure there will be a unique identifier on each dvd to prevent this. I highly doubt the notion eluded anyone at Microsoft. ;)
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No, OrkO is saying that because you have to have the disk in the tray, it prevents this. Ejecting the tray resets the 360.
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I don't know... I wonder if they went that far. If you are actually in the same room with multiple 360's... I don't think that is going to hurt anybody. How often does that even happen in the grand scheme of things? It probably wasn't worth the effort on their part. I bet it just checks for a disk once on startup... I wouldn't be surprised if this worked.
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But as soon as you press eject on the 360 does it not reset the console, therefore making you do a recheck.
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Nope... I'll have to test it when I'm home... but if you are playing a game off the HDD (like a live arcade game) you can open and close the tray with no effect (I think). The only thing I could imagine would be a problem would be if you close the tray with a game disk in there... it will probably read the disk and try to load it. You could either leave the tray open while you play (which I've done before) or just close it with no game in there.
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You will not here the DVD drive, the DVD check is just to see if you have the actual disk other wise everyone could install each others games on each other 360's.
SO basicaly this allows you to play your games and not here the freeking loud drive, that to me is worth it 100%. Thank god I have a elite the 120 gig will come in handy for sure. -
How does it make it pointless? It's not installing the whole DVD to the hard drive, and even if it was, how does having the DVD in the tray or not matter? You don't even need to use it if you don't want to, it's a feature that's there if you want to make use of it and I'm sure many people will
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I'm upgrading to an elite or at least a 120GB harddrive just for this feature.
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It's doubtful they would have you install the entire DVD to the drive, probably just the frequently used texture/video/ other art files and some game data. If you were to install the entire thing, most 360 owners could only "install" one game at a time given the small the 20 GB drive (<13 GB really).
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Well, maybe that's why they are coming out with 60GB as a standard. Plus they want to get people to buy 120GBs if possible, not that people should or would for the price they are selling it, but it's an option.
How would they select only certain data to install for every single game? The only practical solution would be to install it all, and they've done it with Xbox Originals Downloads, they can do it here too. DVDs aren't bigger than 8.5GB or whatever, and games rarely use up all that space.-
Again, the whole point of the install feature is to bypass any disc loading. If it only installed certain data, you'd still need to read from the disc sometimes for somethings. From what i understand, it installs everything and the disc is only required to start the game.
Their setup seems similar to mounting an image of a disc in your computer's operating system, rather than something like the a PS3 game where only certain parts are installed.
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you are comepletely correct... it basically makes an image of the disk on the system. that will be the only way it work especially with older games. there is no patch to tell it what files to copy from games... it just makes an image.
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Well as to what files would be installed, that could probably be handled in a patch for each game (not incredibly practical, but possible). And true, not all games use the 8.5 GBs, but best case scenario you could still only fit two or maaaaybe three games on the standard 20GB drive.
Yes, they do have a 60Gb drive as standard now, but that doesn't help the 360's huge installed base of mainly Premium/Pro owners. Until they lower the insane price on the 120GB drives, this is mostly a bullet point feature.-
Like it or not, it's brilliant move by MS, if only to sell of their overpriced hard drive accessories. People will buy them, maybe not you, but people will. Some may even trade up their old consoles for Elites.
My 360 was an Elite, and it was more than worth it the extra $100 or whatever it was. After using it for a few months, I couldn't understand how anyone could put up with a 20GB. -
thats the entire point.. to make people upgrade their drives or buy hard drives.. granted they need to drop the fucking price so i can get another 120 gig drive, but it definitely will make people buy the hd..
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I guess it's not really doubtful, it's just a bit ridiculous considering how small most 360 hard drives are out there.
I have a hard time imagining MS wouldn't make more than double the amount of money (including DLC, XBLA and Xbox Originals) by reducing the HDD to half it's current ripoff price. I know I'd buy one if it were $80-100, and I'm sure there's a lot more people out there that would do the same if it weren't so unreasonably expensive.
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I'm pretty sure it IS installing the whole DVD to the drive because they are doing this with GTA IV which was developed before this feature was available. In order to be selective about which part of the game are installed... the game would have to be made to tell the system "only take this part and this part". The DVD check is only to make sure you have the disk and don't just install the game then return it.
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It's all about load times, and for games like GTA4 where you can easily run into invisible objects when driving faster than the DVD can provide details, the added speed should increase playability.
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Hmm, I hadn't even thought about Mass Effect, I was thinking more of Oblivion, GTA, Burnout Paradise, and other open worldish games that stream from the disc. It would be great if this took care of the texture pop-in problems though.
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