Morning Discussion
So it was quite the busy day, with PS3 firmware being made available again, BioWare talked about how they handle piracy, Google brought out a virtual world system and Microsoft announced the winners of it's environmentally oriented game development competition. Of course E3 is impending, so how about a pre-show guide, thanks to Nick.
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Screw that stripped-down gameplay, Civ IV is where it's at.
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Yep. It's not bad by any means, but given how much cheaper Civ IV is and how much more gameplay it offers, the only reasons to get CivRev would be a) playing over Live and/or b) you don't have a PC.
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I had no idea there was a DS version. That's different. What I said still applies for the 360 and PS3 versions.
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I played Civ 4 in bed all the time with my laptop
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Okay, cool, I was just a bit afraid you were dismissing without playing. Yeah, I know what you mean about simplified, but the Live thing is huge for me. I mean, it's not just that you can play games, but that they could actually finish in one reasonable sitting, as it is, Civ's multi has been pretty useless to me.
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I agree with you, but I would like to add that they appeal to a different gaming demographic. Civ4 can be really complex and daunting for a player who nver played a Civ game before, so as I see it, it can be a good introduction and if the user wants more control, he can buy Civ4 + BTS.
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No kidding, a normal game takes at least 6-7 hours to finish.
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there is a big difference in turn based and real time strategy
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Yeah for a turn based strategy game Civ:Rev is the bees knees for any platform. Unfortunately it's not why I play civ games. Lets face it, it is perfectly possible to have a similar multiplayer game using civ4 if you set the turn timer low, game speed fast, small world, accelerated start and limited it to four players.
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RTS is completely different from Civ, that's why its a different genre...
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I guess I'm saying that RTS is better for swift decision and acting, and TBS is better for micromanaging, and that's why I'm skeptical about CivRev, which is trying to be a TBS with swift decision/action. But games have successfully made that leap before -- DEFCON is a great game, and that's an RTS but is all about micromanagement.
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To a certain extent micromanagement makes more sense in a game like Civ IV, since it is, after all, your empire.
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and here I thought it was the 'turns' that made TBS. Micromanagement isn't necessary, just a common way to give people lots of stuff to do during their turns.
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You can do that in Civ IV. You can automate cities and units in many cases and speed up the turns.
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oooh I hope it's a chariot with a BB paint job
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the Burout Paradise car from them was better than the Wal-mart car.
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durr BurnOUT
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duh! those stupid open wheel cars always suck.
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We wanted to let you know that there is an unexpected delay with your
video game order (Order# 002-6131788-9471423) you placed on April 27 2008 11:50 PDT. Unfortunately, we are unable
to ship the product(s) as soon as we expected and need to provide you with a new estimate of when
they may be delivered:
"Sid Meier's Civilization Revolution" [Video Game]
Estimated arrival date: 07/14/2008
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Verdict: AWESOME
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So is it worth picking up if I already have Civ IV + BTS and I love it?
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It's a console specific Civ. A lot of Civ IV fans are saying that tried and true Civ strats no longer work and you really have to re-learn the game. There is an emphasis on fast moving games. Most techs come with bonuses upon researching them, all Civs have 4 specific bonuses that get unlocked through each age. It's more focused on combat and fast gameplay than on micromanagement.
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In the demo, I found that like Civ4 it helps to have cities that specialize in a certain area. For instance, i had a city on the coast that put out crazy huge research, a city in the plains that produced huge amounts of food, and a city really near an enemy city that was able to do 15 production/turn from the get-go. I was pumping out military units one per turn, making armies, amassing them at the border, and destroying shit almost instantly.
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has anyone played the DS version yet?! Is it as good as the 360 version, of which I played the demo?
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which should I buy, or should I buy both?! AHHHH
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Nope, not supported. Civ is waaaaaay too complicated for cart sharing multiplayer.
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Even advance wars doesn't let you play single cart
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Oh god I can't wait to go home oh god
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