Morning Discussion
And also, I feel really compelled to direct you towards the newly announced Little Red Riding Hood's Zombie BBQ. I don't even know what to make of the name, it looks like the output from one of those random band generators, but must admit that barbecuing zombies does seem strongly compelling.
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replySo am I supposed to camp at AT&T for one of these magic phones?
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Yes they are great, they are made of magic dude.
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I would have thought most people are in phone contracts already though, so i wouldn't have thought that many people are in a position to go in and buy one of these as soon as they are available.. unless they're so desperate they plan to pay out their old contract just to get one straight away.
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really? you guys lucked out then, from everything i've read of the providers in other countries, they are treating as any other phone in that you have to honour your original contract or buy it out before you can start this one, otherwise you'll have to pay the non-subsidised price for it (which is what i plan to do).
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I am going to pretty much predict the opposite. Although there will still be a massive installed base of original iphone users, many of the phones will change hands to second or third owners. They are great pieces of hardware that will be genuinely useful for years to come
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Yea, if I had one already I would wait until iPhone 3.0.
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I'm pissed that supposedly you have to activate them in store...
They better change that. How do you gift it? How do you buy it at an Apple store? Do you have to unpack all that crazy apple packaging in store? The iTunes at home activation was one of the coolest things about it, and now it's just like a normal phone.
Not to mention that they don't include a free dock when you buy it now. Not that it's a huge deal but it kind of cheapens the whole experience.-
they wont change the activation thing in store, it's parts of they're efforts to curb the people that bought 10 of them just to sell on eBay, and unlockers as well. If you have to activate it in the store, you are stuck with a 2yr contract, and what would be the point of unlocking it then? also, you won't be able to buy it online. at least at first. They're doing away with the activation thru iTunes.
Also, the dock isn't a big deal, it's $30 in stores, it helps cut the cost of the phone. You're saving like $200-$300 in the phone price, i can deal with buying a dock for $30 after the fact.-
You are saving 200$ on the price of the phone and then paying 10$ more a month for a 2 year plan so you are paying 40$ more than the older iphone, but that 40$ is spread out over 2 years which is acceptable to most people.
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i don't see why not, unless the phone is physically larger in any way. I know it's thicker, but it tapers at the edges, and i bet it will be more than enough to still fit.
I still have a few 3rd gen ipod docks laying around and my iphone will dock in those just fine, it just looks a little weird.
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nope, it won't
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that was certainly the case with the previous iphone:
http://consumerist.com/consumer/apple/175-fee-if-you-cancel-iphone-even-though-you-paid-full-price-271356.php
of course the new contract terms will differ I guess-
They had already raped you by that point with the previous iPhone though, now it is subsidised i would expect an immediate contract cancellation will be impossible without returning the device, or prohibitively expensive (over here you have to pay out half the remaining monthly contract cost). I dunno i could be wrong. Thankfully here there will definitely be an easy way to buy it outright, as Vodafone has announced it will be available on pre-paid plans.
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In the 5 or so countries they actually managed to find providers willing to bend to their demands, yes.. however it is definitely not just 3G that has got them providers in so many countries already for the new iPhone.
To properly compete against other phone makers they needed to sell to a lot more markets than they were, regardless of how many units they managed to shift in those.
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wow thats really fucking lame.
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so you get some discount w/ verizon?
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Oh, speaking of Verizon. I just switched, and now instead of getting 1 bar of signal at my house with Sprint, I get zero bars with Verizon. I also found out that the high school across the street runs a cell phone jammer (if I go half a mile down the road I pop up to 5 bars real quick). Fun.
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Fuck Highlands Ranch. I hated that place when I lived out in Colorado.
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We've heard from multiple sources that they jam signals. Our babysitters also said they were told by teachers that signals are jammed, and verified they can get zero signal at the school, and if you drive by the school, your signal drops from strong to zilch and then strong again as you pass it, and there is nothing special about the location other than there being a high school there.
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A quick search turned up nada in terms of who you would report that too but it should be as simple as going to the principal and asking them to get rid of that shit and if they refuse, remind them that it is illegal and if they still refuse, try the police. Remind them that a lot of cell phone jammers block other radio frequencies, including those used by first responders. Ask them how shitty it would be if a paramedic responded to an injury of a student and couldn't communicate back.
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what is the price if you already have an AT&T contract?
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I was under the impression the 20Mbps 3G was just a result of AT&T upgrading their network and wouldn't require new hardware in the device as well. Am I mistaken?
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interesting and unfortunate, I guess I'll just have to buy an iPhone 2 and then the next gen as well >_<
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$199 if you already have a contract? I'm assuming you just have to extend it 2 years
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so I currently have an 8125 that is not eligible for a discounted upgrade according to the website. If I wanted to buy one of these new iphones would it only cost $199 and I would have a new contract for 2 years. Would this affect my current one?
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ok, here's the scoop, i might have been wrong, from previous things i've read, it made it sound like they'd just axe your current contract and create a new one, looks like that is false now, here's the lowdown:
http://www.tuaw.com/2008/06/10/iphone-upgrade-breakdown/
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oh ok thanks!
This is what applies to me
"The pricing for non-qualified upgrades has not been determined, but phones will still need to be activated in-store and with a data-plan and two-year contract." -
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in ANY case, at&t never extends a current contract. If you are not in your "upgrade period" yet, you can have the cust. serv. dude call Customer Service and they can do what's called an "Exception Upgrade". Everyone that has a at&t contract in good standing can do this i believe once in every contract. Then you get the same prices for a phone as a customer in their upgrade period (which is within 3 months before the contract is up) This is the way it was when I managed an at&t store. Of course, who knows if they'll do it the same way when the iPhone 3G comes out, but it looks like they'll treat it like any other phone now.
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Have they ever released the numbers for how much AT&T paid Apple to be the exclusive supplier of the iPhone? The amount must be mind blowing, because I can't even begin to imagine how many iPhones would be selling if it were compatible with other cellphone providers (especially Cingular, Verizon, etc)
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Not to mention his friend was second in line so he got one anyway.
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http://www.macrumors.com/2008/06/09/atandts-iphone-3g-data-plan-and-no-longer-revenue-sharing/
apparently also if you have an existing iphone plan with them, you can simply buy the new phone it doesnt extend your plan, but just replaces it, so ill have to just go up 10 bucks a month for 3G, although I dont think my area gets 3G yet. =/ -
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Any smartphone without data plan is worthless. Sure you think "oh it has wifi, i'll just use that for internet" but I can't count the number of times I've used the my phone to get addresses, transfer money, etc.
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why would you get an iPhone without a data plan?
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anyone can write that type of program later (like the usual GPS companies), having the actual hardware GPS chip inside is the important part
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