Morning Discussion
So given this hypothetically unlimited variety from XNA and the strong current of PC indie gaming, what game idea would you like to see revived or created?
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replySo given this hypothetically unlimited variety from XNA and the strong current of PC indie gaming, what game idea would you like to see revived or created?
Are there titles of old like MULE and Sun Tzu's Ancient Art of War, or perhaps there's something that takes a nod from modern gaming? What do you think about other people's suggestions?-
Jetpack Christmas Edition
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Skool Daze! And any other number of old speccy/c64 games would make me happy.
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remember that chopper game where you could land your chopper and run around on the ground? that was awesome.
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Mother. Fucking. Signed.
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I'd love to see a translation of O.G.R.E.
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Don't forget portals too.
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I'd love to see Autoduel on XBLA, although I don't know if anyone could do it justice while staying within the limitations of file size, etc.
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It's still a fun game! I don't know why there's so much hate for Freelancer, I know it's not hardcore sim but it wasn't really trying to do that.
Freelancer seems casual enough that it would be perfect for XBLA.
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Jagged Alliance
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I'd actually like to see some board games translated to Xbox Live. MULE would be a great game to remake with XNA and release.
I'd go for a top-down shooter game like the old arcade game Jackal. I have yet to buy that Assault Heroes thing but that looks kind of close to what I'd like to play, but with less boss-style battles. That spider thing always kicks my ass. haha
I will say this -- I'm tired of Geometry Wars/Super Stardust HD style games. -
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+ Heart Of Africa
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heart_of_Africa
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Warlords was pretty badass. Loved the kinetic control with the Atari knob thingy controller.
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It's coming to XBLA (hypothetically) http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/strategy/warlords/news.html?sid=6161098&om_act=convert&om_clk=newsfeatures&tag=newsfeatures;title;1
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Detroit_(computer_game) was a good game.
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How about some Zork?
YOU WERE KILLED BY A GRUE.
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"I swear I pushed the analog stick north!"
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> what is a grue?
The grue is a sinister, lurking presence in the dark places of the earth. Its favorite diet is adventurers, but its insatiable appetite is tempered by its fear of light. No grue has ever been seen by the light of day, and few have survived its fearsome jaws to tell the tale.
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"Have a pineapple, Goodnight!"
http://www.the-underdogs.info/game.php?id=3706
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Mutant League Football
I've said it before and I'll say it again, a multi-player Mutant League Football running on some recent engine with over the top violence and crazy settings would send me into cardiac arrest.-
I was gonna say this same thing, fuck yeah
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Agreed. One of the best games of all time.
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CRACK WARS lol just kidding
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Herzog Zwei
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Shack the game. Dognose explosive weapons + Chinese food power ups. Rosewood with a backhand attack + acid Sprite bombs. Where in the world is Carmen's Filthysock. g0nk's scion rally - enemy cars = BMWs. missylu shooter - ship would have wide radius shackmeet force field + double pew pews. Have to knock down the forcefield before you can penetrate the hull.... Sorry. And I'm sorry to dognose for saying sorry.
Make some others!
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I was going to drop XNA after I released my current game due to the pain in the ass of delivering it to other PC users and the incredibly limited 360 distribution audience until I heard about yesterday's announcement. That made XNA a far more viable solution as opposed to going back to C/C++ DX9.
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Yeah that's definitely good enough, I'm using that right now.
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On my face pls
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Id be ecstatic with a decent version of tabletop Battletech.
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Just don't let it die ... Fuck those suits who lock their precious IPs away for good >:[
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Honestly, I'd rather let the franchise go than see another abomination like mech assault.
I don't think we'll see it come back anytime soon though, for whatever reason, no one is making sci-fi sims. The whole gaming market is moving towards more casual games, and Mechwarrior, at it's best, is a hardcore game for hardcore gamers.
Not that I have anything against the casual game market, in fact, I generally prefer it. It's just a damn shame that Mechwarrior got killed in the crossfire.
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This was in the works, unfortunately the project was shutdown by Square.
http://www.opcoder.com/projects/chrono/-
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It was an incredibly well done project and an absolute dick move on Square's part to shut it down.
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I have had an idea for a Magic The Gathering inspired RTS for quite some time. I'm not sure I'd want to make it for a console though.
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What was wrong with Tecmo Super Bowl? Too many teams for your taste?
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Both the NFLPA and NFL licenses will be impossible to get considering EA has those exclusively until 2011, I think. In fact, Tecmo Bowl was recent released for the Wii Virtual Console but of course without the names of the football players. It is not because of the Players Association though.
By the way, Tecmo Super Bowl is way superior not only for the licenses but the number of plays you can choose.-
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No, Tecmo Bowl only had 4 plays you can choose. 2 passing 2 running. Tecmo Super Bowl doubles it.
http://images.google.com/images?um=1&hl=en&safe=off&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&q=tecmo+bowl+playbook&btnG=Search+Images-
Also, they had real players and real and full teams unlike the original.
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Nethack, maybe with some nice new tiles/graphics for the nubs that can't handle the ASCII version. I don't know how they'd map all the actions to a 360 controller though.
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Homebrew of course I'm assuming? I've been thinking about picking up an R4 for my DS.
I also have a Nokia N800 which has a pretty nice port too.
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Legend of the Dragoon plz.
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Legend of Legaia. I liked the fighting system.
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It was fun for awhile, but I remember some of those combos taking forever near the end. One of the reasons I gave up on the game was that the random battles were so frequent, so long, and save points were so few and far between, that I realized, in the < two hours I had to play on most days, I wasn't necessarily guaranteed to hit the next save point.
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Oh, you mean like the old-school games such as Final Fantasy that had relatively few save points.
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FF 1 was that bad as well. Except it was more of 'I fucking died AGAIN!!!!'
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That would definitely be harsh.
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But did they improve on that in the second one or not? I can't remember.
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Bonk's Adventure
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I would love to see Outpost done properly.
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Bushido Blade on the wii with online multiplayer would be nice.
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X-COM, Metal Warriors
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I think they did make a game recently that was very similar to X-COM, called Laser Squad Nemesis: http://www.lsnemesis.com/
Of course, even the sequel to X-COM sucked, so who knows what it would take to get the magic back.
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I'm just going to mess around with it initially to see how it is to work with. I love the idea of these starter kits they have out there. I'll probably start with one of those and start hacking it into something simple.
I'm thinking of multiplayer stuff just for the simple reason that I don't have to program AI. :)
There are two very different games I could see making with this thing:
1) A Warlords clone. Very easy from a programming side; the trickiest bit would be getting the ball bouncing to feel right. Four-players on one 360 would be cake, but lag might kill the idea of it online.
2) Multiplayer Dicewars sort of like that KDice. The cool thing about that idea is that it's turn-based, so lag isn't an issue .
What kind of thing were you thinking about doing?-
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I'm doing some tutorials and reading a book. Let me know what you're up to if you really get something started.
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i've done a ton of tutorials, started just trying to throw a game together myself... did pong, started going the framework for an RPG (but any RPG is a pretty big project)
made 1 sprite and was able to walk him around a cornflower blue screen :D thinking about how to do a tilemap.. or a DoomRPG esq game.
I also was able to do a lunar lander type game, fairly easy. Platforms are a little more difficult IMO, but there are a ton of games that can be thrown together.
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I'm fine if you want me to be a project lead on a small project. I've even got a few simple game designs that we could use to boot.
However, a weekend isn't a significant amount of time for a project.
I'd say that anyone who wants to be involved should spend the weekend playing around with XNA and the samples to get a feel for XNA 2.0 itself. I'll create a Visual Studio 2005 Express Edition project skeleton (so that everyone can be involved whether they own Visual Studio 2005 or not) and set up a site for hosting.
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I'm experienced, but definitely not that much time on my hands (at least right now). I can help program and provide simple art/design for a project.
However, this reminds me of high school/college where a group of friends go "hey, let's make this awesome video game" and they started working on it. A month later, it gets abandoned and half-complete. Not to say I've never seen a group finish a game, but I've seen that happen a lot. The Shack won't let me down, right? :)-
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Yeah. Any developer who started off self-taught and had exposure to the Internet has probably gone through this.
I'm enjoying my hobby game dev work outside of my work work game dev work but the teams that successfully complete a project without a close, physical proximity to each other are such a rarity.-
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Oh man I miss flipcode.
Shame your game didn't work out. I taught myself to program about 10 years ago, and in that time I've finished school, finished a Masters in Computer Science, and been in a full-time (non-game) development job for 18 months. All this time I've had aspirations for making my own game, and still do. It's so frustrating when I think of all the cool projects I started eagerly and soon forgot. Other than knowledge/experience, I have literally nothing to show from all my years of hobby programming :(-
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Oh, I know, and in all my years of frequenting amateur game-dev forums, I've only ever seen one completed MMORPG. Some of "let's make a MMORPG in space with pirates, I can't pay you yet but I will when it's finished, I already have some code I found on NeHe" posts were good for a laugh though.
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GameDev.net and, in part, NeHe are the reason I'm at Stardock now. I didn't major in Computer Science so, to learn everything I have, I relied on books and internet resources. After I wrote some stuff for NeHe I ended up getting in contact with Dave Astle (CEO of GameDev.net), we became friends, and then he put me in contact with Andre LaMothe. LaMothe got me in to write a couple of chapters for a book his friend was working on, then gave me a book deal of my own.
In short, I fucking love The Internet.
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I actually have a functioning version of tetris in XNA... 8D
http://str8dog.shackspace.com/NotmyTetris.png
It is a port from a DirectX book I bought.. but it works... 8)
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