New Year's Discussion

So it's almost the end of 2007 and that tends to cause people to look back and review. It's been quite the year, in terms of both games and things happening around gaming. I'd go abstract and just say it was great having six to seven viable gaming platforms. Conversely, needing all those platforms to take everything in was a bit of a downer.

So I ask you Shackers, what were some of your favorite gaming moments of 2007? And would it be silly to have a "gaming resolutions for 2008" thread? Also, if you're looking for different games to check out, maybe this thread will help. Have a good, yet safe New Years!

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    December 31, 2007 10:56 AM

    Favorite moments in gaming for 2007?

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      December 31, 2007 11:03 AM

      I predict this thread will be full of spoiler tags!

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        December 31, 2007 11:05 AM

        my favorite moment: the end sequence to every game you're not finished with!

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          December 31, 2007 11:06 AM

          the time that character you really liked died

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        December 31, 2007 11:45 AM

        Finally walking into a store and seeing a Wii on the shelf

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      December 31, 2007 11:05 AM

      Portal. Just all of it.

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        December 31, 2007 11:26 AM

        ^ This. I loved that game.

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        December 31, 2007 11:29 AM

        Same. Portal is just brilliant throughout.

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        December 31, 2007 11:41 AM

        almost agreed. but too long I've been thinking "okay, I get it. now let me make my own orange portals or I may have to abort the experiment just to spite you!"

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        December 31, 2007 11:43 AM

        Got too hard too fast, gave up after 10 or so levels

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          December 31, 2007 12:14 PM

          o_O

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          December 31, 2007 12:49 PM

          If anything, it was too easy for too long. I wish I could have gotten stumped for more than 20 seconds.

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        December 31, 2007 11:59 AM

        Portal.* as well

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        December 31, 2007 5:15 PM

        p0rtal is my favorite gaming moment of 2007...all of it.

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      December 31, 2007 11:06 AM

      Beating Sewer Shark for the 2nd time.

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      December 31, 2007 11:08 AM

      winning the final stage in dustbowl inside of the final minute. Especially when they've held you off for 15 minutes already.

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        December 31, 2007 11:08 AM

        Same goes with C on gravel pit.

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          December 31, 2007 11:19 AM

          that's gratifying too, but the time limit is so much shorter there that it's gotta be literally a last second win to have that same feeling. The final stage in dustbowl is often an 18 minute meatgrinder.

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      December 31, 2007 11:09 AM

      getting something other than sports games for my gamecube

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      December 31, 2007 11:09 AM

      Portal, when I got through the "training" levels and then realized there was more to the game.

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        December 31, 2007 11:29 AM

        for me too. its a cool game mechanic, but when you discover its actuall a cool story, and so nicely told, too !... wow.

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      December 31, 2007 11:12 AM

      Mass Effect - the speech that shepard gives to the crew before the normandy takes off for the first time with shepard as the captain

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        December 31, 2007 11:38 AM

        It sounded really good if you did it as a bad ass as well, I thought it was going to sound like how optimistic the SF Captain in Transformers was but it was more like, "we don't need those motherfuckers!"

        I think the game would have been great if Keith David did the voice of Shepherd if you made your dude black.

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        December 31, 2007 6:00 PM

        I just loved how they did that. My game of the year already, just so damn good.

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      December 31, 2007 11:16 AM

      A lot of great moments:

      -Metroid Prime 3 - Samus versus Omega Ridley!
      -Call of Duty 4 - All Guillied Up
      -Portal - all of it.
      -Lot of Team Fortress 2 moments

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      December 31, 2007 11:21 AM

      Portal in its entirety. Bioshock confrontation with Andrew Ryan. Call of Duty 4 introduction (not the ship mission). First big battle in Supreme Commander.

      I hate choosing favorites.

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        December 31, 2007 11:22 AM

        Oh, and one of the matches against Valve people in Team Fortress 2.

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      December 31, 2007 11:22 AM

      All the games we've been waiting for arrived, mostly. TF2, EP2, Portal, Crysis, Bioshock were all awesome.

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      December 31, 2007 11:24 AM

      BioShock spoiler: beating the crap out of Andrew Ryan with a golf club

      CoD4: The gunship mission. Ka-boom.

      Portal: The whole damn game, but esp. the battle with GLaDOS (or however you capitalize it) and the credits.

      Hitting level 70 in WoW, and starting over again from level 1.

      Playing Rock Band with my family over the holidays.

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        December 31, 2007 11:38 AM

        IAWTP, well, except for that Wow bit. Rock Band with everyone on xmas was amazing. So great.

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      December 31, 2007 11:25 AM

      Jumping off of the Agency tower into the water on Crackdown and beating down someone for the first time online in Halo3.

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      December 31, 2007 11:28 AM

      Hooking up my 360 to my HDTV for the first time. I've pretty much completely switched to gaming on a console. I never would have expected this a year ago.

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      December 31, 2007 11:29 AM

      My first OBJECTION!

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      December 31, 2007 11:32 AM

      Playing Coheed and Cambria in Rock Band with 3 other friends, all on hard/expert. We rocked out pretty damn hard.

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        December 31, 2007 12:59 PM

        Playing Rock Band with the family is definitely a highlight for this year.

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      December 31, 2007 11:32 AM

      snuggling my weighted companion cube

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      December 31, 2007 11:32 AM

      Episode 2

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        December 31, 2007 11:46 AM

        Especially the last half hour. Insanity.

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      December 31, 2007 11:32 AM

      Shack TF2, I only play on the shack servers and I wouldn't have it any other way.

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        December 31, 2007 11:41 AM

        A bunch of my friends just got TF2 so I have been trying to play on some public servers with them but it's just so painful.

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        December 31, 2007 2:14 PM

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        December 31, 2007 2:33 PM

        Yep, has to be Shack TF2 for me too.

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      December 31, 2007 11:33 AM

      The last few hours of The Witcher. Such an awesome villain.

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        December 31, 2007 11:40 AM

        I only just got round to ordering that yesterday, so unfortunately it may be my favorite moment next year instead. That or maybe Darkfall/ or DNF getting released.

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        December 31, 2007 1:04 PM

        I kinda just stopped playing in the middle of act 4 when the 2 sisters got killed and turned into day/nightwalkers. Is there anything really different from what I've been doing so far, or is it just more of the same, mostly?

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          December 31, 2007 1:36 PM

          You are really close to the end of act 4. Act 5 is fairly short as there is less open world exploring as you approach the end. As for more of the same, I would say Act 5 is more focused on combat as the major plot lines come together.

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      December 31, 2007 11:37 AM

      DMoMM: Bashing a support post and seeing several barrels of oil roll down a hill, over a patch of flaming oil, catching fire and hitting the group of orcs coming up the incline, turning them into ugly versions of the human torch! This game had some great moments, mainly due to the source engine physics. The ending, however, was really weak

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      December 31, 2007 11:45 AM

      The last battle of Heavenly Sword was great fun. Like the end of Half-Life 2, the last level in a game should be more fun than any other... it's like a reward for sticking it out. Same for Call of Duty 4... that airplane hijack was my favorite mission in that game, but there were so many other great ones, too.

      The big last battle of Episode 2, intense the whole way through.

      Portal was great throughout, but the sections after 18 through me for a spin, it was a nice change from the sterile levels.

      In Bioshock, seeing the bathysphere thing being destroyed by Ryan and hearing Atlas freak out about his "family" dying was pretty dramatic. And the confrontation with Andrew Ryan was also cool. The last part where you get to the hidden area with the Little Sisters was good, too.

      In Halo 3 I remember scraping by a few battles in the Campaign and thinking, 'damn, that was nuts.' Such great pacing and gameplay.

      I played Shadow of the Colossus back in January and that entire game was like a movie. Just amazing.

      The first half hour of Assassin's Creed just blew me away. I was expecting something poorly cobbled, but it was really well made.

      I actually liked the combat in Mass Effect. It could've been better in a few ways, but I played soldier and really enjoyed it. Just wish the random planets had more variety. And the music was fantastic.

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      December 31, 2007 11:49 AM

      Playing the Crysis beta for the first time.

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      December 31, 2007 11:50 AM

      The moment that I upgraded my computer and bought a shitload of games on Steam and elsewhere.

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      December 31, 2007 11:51 AM

      Super Mario Galaxy. Soo many great moments

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      December 31, 2007 11:52 AM

      Waiting up all night with the shack for the TF2 release on steam

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      December 31, 2007 11:54 AM

      So damn many.

      Hearing moaning right after a gunfight in STALKER, looking around for the source, and realizing I had only wounded one of the bandits, then finishing him off with the pistol.

      Mentioned before, but Bioshock's showdown with Ryan

      Getting "Impossible Defense" in TF2

      The entire concluding sequence in Mass Effect, starting with Virmire.

      Almost every "flashback" in The Witcher, where I got to witness exactly how my actions led me to my current situation.

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      December 31, 2007 12:02 PM

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      December 31, 2007 12:15 PM

      CoD4: gunship mission

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      December 31, 2007 12:15 PM

      The whole last hour or so of Mass Effect is fucking fantastic. Epic movie quality stuff even though it's a game. Can't wait for the sequels!!

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        December 31, 2007 1:15 PM

        Agreed. There were some wonderful moments in gaming this year, but I cheered at my TV in excitement during the last segment of Mass Effect. That was a damned good way to end a game.

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        December 31, 2007 2:13 PM

        Fuck yeah, best ending ever.

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      December 31, 2007 12:20 PM

      The whole beginning of Bioshock. It's been awhile since I've said "Holy Shit" out loud from a game.

      Beyond that, I'd say hearing the Heavy talk in TF2 for the first time.

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        December 31, 2007 12:54 PM

        You are so small... It's funny to me.

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          December 31, 2007 1:31 PM

          I could swear he says something crazy when pointing out a spy something like "I spy spy with my eye!". I rarely hear it though. First time I heard it was just too damned funny.

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            December 31, 2007 3:12 PM

            "I spy with my little eye!" One of the funniest heavy quotes. I didn't hear that one for a long time, and I was laughing for the longest time after.

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        December 31, 2007 2:02 PM

        Yeah, the beginning of BioShock was the most shocking part for me. Since I hate cutscenes at the beginning of the game (I just want to play!), so it was awesome finding out that you suddenly were not in a cutscene.

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          December 31, 2007 2:54 PM

          Sadly, the game never gets this good again.

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            December 31, 2007 3:00 PM

            Yeah, but I still enjoyed the game, even though the plot didn't do it for me as well.

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              December 31, 2007 3:15 PM

              I enjoyed it too, but I can't shake the feeling that it could have been so much better. Hopefully Bioshock 2 will realize the full potential.

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                December 31, 2007 4:27 PM

                I hope so. I really enjoyed the enviroment.

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      December 31, 2007 12:53 PM

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      December 31, 2007 1:06 PM

      Three:
      1.) First fight with a Big Daddy
      2.) Spin-attacking Bowser into space one last time
      3.) Ending of Half-Life 2: Episode Two

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      December 31, 2007 1:10 PM

      Killing Robin Walker in TF2 :(

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      December 31, 2007 1:12 PM

      Going to bind my gren1 and gren2 keys in TF2 and realizing that there aren't any grenades.

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      December 31, 2007 1:25 PM

      Pretty much the defining moment of the year for me with a game is in Half-Life 2: Episode 2. The ending of that game was the most unexpected and sad moments in any game I have played. Beyond this, as everyone is saying, the whole Portal experience was amazing, and to round out the Orange box, realizing that the medic was a fun class for once in TF2 was another defining moment. Non-Orange box related, Half of Crysis was awesome.

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      December 31, 2007 1:39 PM

      The first galaxy in Super Mario Galaxy. The entire presentation, the music, the art direction, everything. At that moment, I knew it was going to be the best game I've played in awhile.

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      December 31, 2007 2:11 PM

      The Harbor level of Crysis. An awesome, cinematic opening, a large open-ended part with some spectacular non-scripted action follows it, and when you are done with it and think the level's going to end, you find out that it was only the first half of it! That's followed by more open ended action with lots of detours and strategies and a beautiful closing with your allies arriving with airstrikes and VTOLs to clean up the remainder of the enemy forces.
      One of the best and most memorable levels in all FPSes I've ever played, for sure.

      Also, deserving mentions: Portal, the nuclear strike in World in Conflict's SP campaign, a number of minor moments in Witcher and the Red Forest mission in STALKER.

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      December 31, 2007 2:12 PM

      That teaser video was pretty high up there :)

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        December 31, 2007 6:27 PM

        I loved that it really captured the essence of Duke so damned well...I mean the scene with the weights and the cigar and all was just perfect. I had no doubt that they would really capture what made the original so special...but seeing that just re-affirmed to me that they really do get it more than I could have guessed.

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      December 31, 2007 2:34 PM

      Final battle in HL2: Ep. 2.

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        December 31, 2007 2:40 PM

        no.

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          December 31, 2007 2:52 PM

          Yeah, that goes into my least favorite catagory. :(

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            December 31, 2007 2:53 PM

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              December 31, 2007 2:57 PM

              The car aspect ruined it for me. I didn't like having to get in and out of a clunky contraption and especially not while being pressured by time.

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                December 31, 2007 5:26 PM

                I kinda liked that actually - gave it a mini-GTA feel

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              December 31, 2007 3:03 PM

              epic in gaming for you. Exactly the opposite for many others.

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                December 31, 2007 3:16 PM

                Those people are stupid.

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                  December 31, 2007 5:28 PM

                  I think those people actually understand what makes a game fun, unlike these fake fuckers who keep saying its "amazing"

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              December 31, 2007 3:13 PM

              Epic awesome. I loved it!

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        December 31, 2007 3:01 PM

        definitely agreed. fuck everyone who didn't like it get out

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        December 31, 2007 3:10 PM

        I felt like this was a little too arcadey, but I still like it better than that part with the turrets in Nova Prospekt.

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          December 31, 2007 6:25 PM

          Really, arcadey doesn't bother me. I feel too many games are trying not to be games...and trying to be "cinematic experiences" and they seem to be willing to drop things that could enhance fun for the sake of "immersion" or having an "epic cinematic game from beginning to end" when I don't necessarily care about that stuff. Then again I loved the turret part in Nova Prospekt (one of the few challenging parts of that game) and the part when the helicopter spews out a shitload of mines when you kill it in HL2.

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        December 31, 2007 3:12 PM

        hellll yes

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        December 31, 2007 3:16 PM

        It was pretty cool, but didn't really rival Mass Effect's ending. It was to repetitive.

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      December 31, 2007 2:52 PM

      Portal - Everything
      S.T.A.L.K.E.R. - exercising my post-apocalyptic urban exploration desires and having them fulfilled
      Final DOOM - Playing through it has been so rewarding and satisfying :)

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      December 31, 2007 2:56 PM

      Portal - the whole game and especially the end credits

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      December 31, 2007 2:58 PM

      The Bioshock demo.

      The full game was all kinds of awesome, but i wasn't expecting how flat out amazing the demo was going to be. I think i played through it about 8 times.

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      December 31, 2007 3:00 PM

      When TF2 finally unlocked.

      It was a loooong day at work since I knew it had already unlocked that morning.

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      December 31, 2007 3:01 PM

      Portal - everything
      Sam and Max - Most of it, but Look! A three-headed Internet! and The moment the game turns into a text adventure.
      CoD4 - the moment after the end credits where you REALLY have to run to get the airplane mission done. CoD4 is definitely not my type of game, I don't like tactical-ish shooters and specially an SP as on rails as that, but it was really well executed imo

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      December 31, 2007 3:02 PM

      Between Metroid Prime 3, Bioshock, TF2, and all the other good games of this year it's close....

      But P0rtal wins as my absolute favorite game of the year..

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      December 31, 2007 3:07 PM

      Portal - The first successful fling, the song... TF2 - everything!

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      December 31, 2007 3:08 PM

      Eve Online -

      An ore thief switched the containers of a corpmates ore (making it stealing and flagging him as okay to attack freely for 15 minutes if he took it back, for the uninitiated). Corpmate has a braindead moment ang goes to retrieve his ore while in his hauler (big ship, not combat oriented). The ore thief was waiting for this and locks our corpmate down so he can't run and tries to ransom him (make him pay to not be blown up). He tells us over vent and two of us fly into the system to save him while we have him stall. One brings him ammo for the single gun he has on his hauler and I jump in with my cruiser set for remote armor repairing.

      Just as the guy says he took too long to decide and begins to fire at our corpmate to destroy him, the two of us warp in next to him and drop of the ammo and begin repairing the damage done by the thief. The theif can't break through the repairing I'm doing and begins taking damage from the hauler's newly loaded guns. His response in local was: "LOL. Looks like I was the one who took too long." And he warps off.

      That was the most satisfying moment I've had playing Eve to date. Nothing quite like ruining the plans of a pirate.

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      December 31, 2007 3:10 PM

      CoD4's sp campaign - the playable first person cut-scene sequences, etc.
      WiC's sp campaign for the sheer amount of time it must have taken to script and develop, including all the mission introductions/cut scenes.

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      December 31, 2007 3:13 PM

      Every time I heard the music in the Mario Galaxy spaceship. I love that song

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      December 31, 2007 3:17 PM

      1. Portal end credit song.
      2. First two levels or so of Super Mario Galaxy (The sheer mind fuck of having to run upside down)
      3. Team Fortress 2 fun-ness.

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      December 31, 2007 3:19 PM

      Killing Venguard on TF2 :).

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      December 31, 2007 4:03 PM

      Playing TF2 with Shackers
      The build up and finale of Portal
      Bioshock intro
      Pretty much all of HL2EP2
      The surprise of COD4 SP and MP being really, really good

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      December 31, 2007 4:15 PM

      Call of Duty 4 had a moment in the single player campaign that literally made my jaw drop.

      After the nuke detonates, you play a "mission" that consists of you crawling very slowly out of the downed helicopter. It takes a while before you even get out, and you fall to the ground. If you try to stand up you just kind of grunt and fall over again. I kept wondering what the fuck was going to happen and how I was going to get out of this situation. Then the screen faded to black, the camera zoomed out in that way it does after missions, showed the name of the guy I was playing and the status changed to "KIA". Holy fucking shit that left me breathless. I think I literally shouted out "holy shit!" after a few seconds of silence.

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        December 31, 2007 5:14 PM

        yeah and you keep blacking out during the process of trying to exit the helo really trippy stuff. the use of graphical shaders and layers in that game is really huge for building the atmosphere. the chernobyl area levels especially did this well also.

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        December 31, 2007 6:55 PM

        ^^ One of the most moving moments I've had in a game

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      December 31, 2007 4:26 PM

      Getting on a TF2 server on christmas day - loading 2forts - to find party mode was on - every single player on the bridge - as pyro - with their voice chat turned on - piping xmas carols - doing the "guitar playing axe" taunt - constantly typing "merry axe mass".

      Seriously - TF2. So much fun and laughter to be had.

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        December 31, 2007 4:36 PM

        lol

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        December 31, 2007 5:17 PM

        Birthday/Holiday mode is not new to TF2, though the "merry axe mass" is :P

        Used to have several programed in days like Christmas and New Year's I think along with one day in August from the day TF (Quake) was first released.

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          December 31, 2007 5:25 PM

          HOLY CRAP? REALLY?

          WAS THE DEMOMAN'S DETPACK A GIANT BIRTHDAY PRESENT?

          :D

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      December 31, 2007 4:35 PM

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      December 31, 2007 4:39 PM

      The Crysis Demo. The demo was, I think, more fun that the full game.

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      December 31, 2007 5:21 PM

      Quakecon 2007 - the bestest one ever

      The happiness I felt when the end song started at the end of Portal

      The first epic Shack battle that I participated in for TF2 - the first one where everyone knew what they were doing. Amazing.

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        December 31, 2007 5:22 PM

        And also how surprised I was at how good CoD4 was. Best single player war type game ever.

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      December 31, 2007 5:28 PM

      The best moment I had in a game in '07 was probably the first half hour of BioShock... the rest was the most immense gaming disappointment of my life.

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      December 31, 2007 6:08 PM

      ROFL @ GladOS
      Mass Effect. The amazing combat (no really), fantastic story, setting, characters, SCOPE... I am in awe of Bioware. How did they fit it all on one disc too?
      Bioshock - Big Daddy fights. Brilliant. And just the wonderful setting - so delightfully unique.
      WoW - Raiding Kara with the guild; some of the boss fights literally get my heart racing, love it. Can't wait for Grull and onwards. (And yes, this is the reason I'm behind on finishing some games :( )

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      December 31, 2007 6:10 PM

      favorite gaming moment was when i got the powerup and won the game.

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      December 31, 2007 6:18 PM

      The release of Enemy Territory: Quake Wars

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        December 31, 2007 6:18 PM

        secondly, TF2 Party Mode servers with other Shackers.

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      December 31, 2007 6:19 PM

      Portal: "weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!" GLaDOS is the game character of the year.

      Team Fortress 2: burning 3-4 guys trying to cap the flag at the very end of the map and WINNING THE GAME ahahahahahaha

      World of Warcraft: beating Kael'thas and getting into Hyjal and Black Temple.

      Episode 2: awesome ending (not the strider battle, that totally blew) and it does the job of making it almost impossible to wait for episode 3

      Witcher: just about all of it, but specifically the 4th act was great. Favorite RPG of the year.

      Stalker: that first underground mission where you encounter a mutant was horrifying, but to top it off the game actually becomes fun from there on so yay to that.

      Crysis: the harbor mission that starts at night and ends in the daytime where you get into tanks. also the tank mission, which i actually completed on foot since my aim in the tank sucked.

      ugh there is so much more its physically painful to think of how much i am leaving out...

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        December 31, 2007 6:48 PM

        Somebody else love Pyro it seems (I need to play some more from the firing range...don't have broadband at home)!

        I love the whole progression of day thing with Crysis...it gives it a Jack Bauer sort of feel!

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      December 31, 2007 6:30 PM

      My very first TF2 death was at the hands of George Broussard.

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        December 31, 2007 6:49 PM

        I'm holding you responsible for the next Duke delay...I just wanted you to know that (and dognose will break you legs!).

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      December 31, 2007 6:44 PM

      So many its hard to say. Some of the combat moments where I've been fucking around with North Koreans in Crysis are up there. I mean cloaking inside of a bigass truck....driving it into a tin shed...and climbing out and running to cover as I watch all the NK guys walk slowly over to it with weapons drawn all freaked out and puzzled...as I switch to strength mode jump onto a rooftop unoticed, cloak real quick, take aim with my rocket launcher, uncloak into armor mode, and launch a rocket right into the vehicle making a huge ass fireball and sending bits or corrugated tin, pieces of truck, and dead NK soldiers EVERY FUCKING WHERE in an orgy of destruction and then I cloak again and run to cover as everyone is fucking going nuts and the whole thing turns into a running battle where I'm cloaking for short periods to escape near misses with death trying to escape the fray...and then I get to a pickup truck and haul ass out of there to make a second run at it to kill some more and restock on AK ammo.

      The gas station moment early on is another great one...great way to introduce the rocket launcher...you grab one and the guy suggests that blowing the gas station would make a good distraction...so I do it and I'm rewarded with an awesome fucking explosion and an ensuing battle that was really damned memorable.

      Getting inside of that pill planet early on in SMG...it reminded me of Doctor Mario for some reason and was just a fun little touch. Hell that game holds so many great moments and I'm not that far in.

      The final battle with the computer GLaDOS in portal was amazing (in what other game does the final boss tell you that you're adopted and no one likes you). That game on a whole was just one great moment after another.

      Hearing Jayne from Firefly (Adam Baldwin) in HL2:EP2 was a real treat...being an insane rabid Firefly/Serenity fan that made my whole day...I love Valve's casting department.

      When you've finished off the first stage of the first level boss in Contra 4 and you're thinking whew I'm finished with that...that was just like the old days...nice touch, that and then WHOOSH it rises up taking up both screens and you're all like "WTF" and you die and start over and kill the second stage and you realize that the designers are bigger old school gaming nerds than you are and you pee a little in your pants with happiness...ok, well you don't lose bladder control even slightly but it was cool.

      I also had some oh shit moments playing SupCom with my brother...when I didn't realize he had nuclear subs and silos that had somehow gone unnoticed (so I didn't bother with countermeasures until it was too late)...so we both all went WWIII and then had the mother of all naval battles (we both love big naval battles...have yet to play on a map without a large body of water)...but that moment of realizing that I was getting nuke raped and having to quickly respond was brilliant.

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        December 31, 2007 6:48 PM

        i knew adam baldwin and nathan fillion were in halo 3, but who was he in half life 2 episode 2?

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          December 31, 2007 6:51 PM

          The voices of some of the nameless soldier resistance dudes you run into (the first time you hear him is in the ant lion siege battle with the Vorts patching up Alyx...he's one of the dudes fighting them off with you).

          I love that they put some serious attention into making the nameless soldiers in the game have some personality...it really made it that much better for me!

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      December 31, 2007 7:10 PM

      Finally playing Portal, and being amazed that it under-promised and over-delivered. What a fucking great game from beginning to end. SRSLY, has a game ever been so good every single second? I don't see how it's not unanimously GOTY

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      December 31, 2007 8:47 PM

      playing TF2 with the valve guys in the first shackmatch. we did OK seeing as how they had ~10 pings and we had around 130 and barely any experience with the game

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