Pentium 4 CPU Delay
As you can see in the hardware reviews list below, Intel today launched a new chipset and a new 3Ghz Pentium 4 CPU to go with it. We won't actually be able to buy this CPU just yet though, as Intel has delayed shipment of it. Last minute tests showed some anomalies and Intel is currently investigating how bad the problem is.
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Wolfanoz
replyGG Intel! I think I'll stick with AMD. I think this pretty much shows how money hungry Intel is rushing shit out the door.
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That makes zero sense. Your statement would have had merrit if they didn't delay the shipment even though they knew of anomolys. Thx, buy a clue
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They should have done a proper QA job in the first place rather than rushing the thing to market and then going 'uh, HANG ON !!!!' at the last minute.
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The fact that its NOT on the market for sale yet and they know about the anomolys shows Wolfanoz statement to be idiotic. ITS NOT ON THE MARKET.
If I can't buy the CPU's with anomoly's how is it rushed to the market? Accuse them of bad practice when you can buy the problematic CPU's. Thanks-
*golf clap* Way to miss the point, which is that if Intel WEREN'T rushing to get things to market such a glitch would have been caught in QA, not the same day that the NDAs on the review samples was lifted :)
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yes, but It's typically only showstoppers that cause delays...
And for a showstopper to show up at the same time as the press NDA's being lifted is just.. well, comedy gold :)-
One company's "show stopper" is another company's "errata". ie- Intel might possibly have more strict control over what they do and don't consider a major bug. For all you know, this bug might have gone completely unnoticed by other companies, or they might very well just say the hell with it and ship the product hoping nobody notices and make sure compilers work around the problem in software. Sounds to me like you're just trolling the big guy.
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give yourself a *golf clap* have you ever understood the concept of "mistakes"? You cannot seriously expect every single complex design to go 100% through R&D without ever things being missed? You guys are making it such a horrible ordeal for on reason. So they delayed the release of the cpu to find out whats wrong. Hell as a consumer i'm glad they did. Your boy Wolfanoz makes a post how there money hungry yadda yadda. Ya makes a lot of sense since they're not selling the cpu yet. Get a clue once again.
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rigghhhhhttt and AMD has never made ANY mistakes... How can they be "money hungry" if they are delaying shipment? that costs them money you know.
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AMD haven't to my recollection ever released something and then been forced to recall it.
Intel have, on several occasions (i820-MTH, 1.13Ghz Coppermine etc.)-
As far as I know, this was a voluntary recall. There's no telling what the error was that was discovered. It could have been something that never would have been seen in real life applications. Don't go and jump the gun and say "AMD RULES INTEL SUX0RZ LOL ROOFLES@!!!!!@!@" just because they decide to be prudent and fix a potential problem on the chip, especially when nobody knows the nature of the issue or even how/when it manifests itself.
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I don't recall saying that?
Hell, if you read my recent post history you'll discover that I'm actually quite impressed with the 800Mhz P4 + Canterwood combination.
Anyways, Them getting this issue with the 800Mhz parts and not the 533's makes me think that my "yields not high enough for comfortable margin of safety with the bus control logic @ 800Mhz" theory might be in the right area.
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Boooooo urns. Pretty shallow statement.
I guess other manufacturers like Dell and IBM that have to recall laptop parts are forgiven? Even when it's batteries that can burn you?
Shit man, give some slack. At least Intel is innovating, we haven't seen SHIT from AMD except for more on-die cache.
But its good for the free market economy that you support AMD so vigorously, pushes Intel to firmly take the speed crown back with leapfrog technology like this. I really hope the Sledgehammer and/or Athlon 64 will keep your spirits high, rather than bashing Intel for innovation.-
I don't disagree with most your points, but AMD's X86-64 is pretty innovative for what they have to work with... Not to mention they MUST apply x86 compatibility with everything they do, or they have no market.
The market is slow right now. There isn't much benefit to releasing new tech because people are buying *much* less. Best to save the good stuff for when the numbers get up again. (i.e. DIII)-
Pretty much my attitude on the Clawhammer/Athlon64 is pretty much that I'll wait for the tech/platform to mature before I get it. I got the P3's when they were pretty mature (Coppermine's after they'd been out for a while), then went to the AthlonXP (which was based on the Athlon which was by then a definately mature platform), and now I'm looking into the P4 800FSBs since the P4 is a pretty mature tech (unlike the Williamette core). I've been pretty much happy running with this philosophy and I've avoided most problems and I'll probably get an Athlon64 second or third generation after they switch to a different socket or whatever and its fairly mature. And I'm not meaning to switch companies back and forth like a pendulum.
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